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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear All, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Please find included below the high-level notes from today’s ccPDP-RM meeting, held on 4 August at 20 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks you and best regards.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Joke Braeken</span><br>
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</span></span></span></b><![endif]><b><span style="color:black">Welcome and roll call</span></b><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Welcome by Chair Stephen Deerhake.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Thanks all for joining today. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Workspace: </span>
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/L4n8CQ"><span style="color:#1155CC">https://community.icann.org/x/L4n8CQ</span></a><span style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">ccPDP3-ret The ccNSO membership supports the ccNSO Council's recommendation to adopt the proposed policy on the retirement of ccTLDs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><a href="https://ccnso.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-29jul21-en.htm"><span style="color:#1155CC">https://ccnso.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-29jul21-en.htm</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Quorum was met, supermajority as well.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black;background:white">ccPDP3-RET WG will not be closed yet. If there is a need for a supplemental recommendation, the WG is still in existence. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black;background:white">Next steps: A report on the voting will be sent to the Issue Manager. The report will be included in the Draft Board Report, which - after approval by the ccNSO Council - will
be submitted to the ICANN Board of Directors, as per </span><a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en/#annexB"><span style="color:#3366CC;background:white">Annex B, section 14 of the ICANN Bylaws</span></a><span style="color:black;background:white">.
September council meeting: adoption of the Board Report. Suggestion: Then introduce it during ICANN72 AGM to the Board in a joint meeting.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Secretariat to convene the small team to start the item 1 discussion. The group met earlier today. Bernard will report back on the discussion to date, and the plan going forward</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span></b><![endif]><b><span style="color:black">Fundamental fairness (second reading) </span></b><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Revisit Eberhard’s presentation from the previous meeting, where he presented on fundamental fairness. Discussion today, opportunity to ask questions. That is the second reading. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">No questions or comments by WG members.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Eberhard refers to the slide on natural justice (duty to act fairly). 2 components:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Rule against bias (incl. Fundamental fairness)<o:p></o:p></li><li style="color:black;margin-top:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5;vertical-align:baseline">
Right to a fair hearing (incl. Procedural fairness)<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">In Eberhard’s view this should also be for IFO and ICANN’s decision. In that case our review would not be necessary.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Objections to including this into our work project moving forward?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Eberhard: invites lawyers to share thoughts.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Nick: Maarten is on holiday. Concepts vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Icann context: apply globally, but needs to be implemented locally. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Issues raised by Eberhard regarding:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span class="apple-tab-span"><span style="color:black">
</span></span><span style="color:black">2: Predictability and Legitimacy of IANA processes. The (outcome) of</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span class="apple-tab-span"><span style="color:black">
</span></span><span style="color:black">the processes of delegation, transfer, revocation, and retirement of</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span class="apple-tab-span"><span style="color:black">
</span></span><span style="color:black">ccTLD should be stable and the (outcome of the) process should be</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><span style="color:black">reasonable and predictable to all Significant Interested Parties,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span class="apple-tab-span"><span style="color:black">
</span></span><span style="color:black">including the ccTLD Manager.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Eberhard proposes:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span class="apple-tab-span"><span style="color:black">
</span></span><span style="color:black">2: Predictability and Legitimacy of IANA processes. The (outcome) of</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span class="apple-tab-span"><span style="color:black">
</span></span><span style="color:black">the processes of delegation, transfer, revocation, and retirement of</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><span style="color:black">ccTLDs should be stable, reasonable and predictable.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Support by several WG members on the mailing list.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Bart provides an overview of the changes. Red-line version displayed in the Zoom Room.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Nigel challenges principles 1 and 2. Should it read: General principles *of* the Review Mechanism. ? In that case, 1 and 2 should not be part of the principles. Refers to the overriding objective
of the Review Mechanism. Does not support stability, or predictability. Supports the items, but the overall objective should be to provide a fair and speedy and predictable appeals mechanism </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Eberhard: agrees. Easy-fix. This is an easy fix. Overarching principle. Re-draft 1st paragraph. Content to remain in doc, but the overarching principle is indeed the goals of this PDP WG.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Bart: if you focus on the headings. Purpose of the overarching principles sets the parameters of the RM. once the RM is done, what are the boundaries.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Peter: we are reproducing principles that are valid anyway.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Patricio: this doc states the overall principles of the design of the RM. As such, the general principles should not re-state the goal of the process. That is included in the charter.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Eberhard: we should be clearer. To avoid misunderstanding.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Bart: does this address the concern you raised?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Nigel: no. both 1 and 2 are valid and true. But not relevant to an appeal mechanism. How are icann and iana engaged when running an appeals process? To include: why we have a RM, and what the
parameters are. E.g. low cost, speedy process.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Nigel: it needs wordsmithing. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Bart: Nigel, please come up with alternative wording by next meeting </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Nigel: yes, will do so</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Patricio: specifications for RM. the requirement is RM not to endanger stability of DNS. also should be predictable. In that way better understand what we receive.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="color:black">Action item #1</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">Nigel to prepare alternative wording regarding the general principles by the next ccPDP3-RM meeting.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Concerns or questions regarding number 6?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Eberhard: this overlooks the fact that the principle of fundamental fairness implies “no bias” and “right to a fair hearing”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><b><span style="color:black">Action item #2</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">Secretariat to update item 6, as per Eberhard’s suggestion, based on the slide deck Eberhard shared during the previous meeting</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Number 2. Suggestion by Eberhard on the mailing list.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Supported on the mailing list by Patricio, Vanda, Sean. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Proposed language:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">2: Predictability and Legitimacy of IANA processes. The (outcome) of</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span class="apple-tab-span"><span style="color:black"> </span></span><span style="color:black">the processes of delegation, transfer, revocation, and retirement of</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Bart proposed to include the text as suggested by Eberhard.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Eberhard: remove the specifics.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Does the group support the text as proposed by Eberhard?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Some green marks, no red ones.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Patricio: if the wording of number 6 changes. Observation regarding the phrase with the choice is not relevant anymore. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Eberhard: just a language issue. Can be fixed. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Patricio: pending the result, that is ok.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">My observation referred to the phrase "informed choice to make a choice whether to contest and assert the choice”. We’ll see how it is in the new version.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">WG is referred to as the BWG. Consists of Nick, Peter, Allan, Maarten. Supported by Bart, Kim, Bernie.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">The group considered appeals options for gTLDs. Most gtLD contracts include a clause to solve conflicts through ICC. not through IRP. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">The BWG considered the recent IRP cases. Mostly about new gTLDs. Potentially in conflict with icann bylaws and articles of incorporation. Long duration, expensive. Icann IRP is now binding on
ICANN. This is open to anyone who wishes to challenge icann. The decisions by the IRP panel are now binding on the Board. Reviews of ccTLD decisions about RFC1591, FoI, management of IFO.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Nigel: IRP binding on Board. This is relatively new. Carved out that ccNSO and ccTLD matters are not included in the accountability mechanism. But: similar viewpoint. Make it binding, so that
the board needs to abide by it. Not just breaches of icann bylaws, but also its fundamental values.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Bernie: ccNSO opted out of IRP. but could decide to use the process, or a similar one. Would not fit for ccTLD appeal</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Who makes decisions? The Icann board confirms the IFO follows the recommendations. This causes the change in the root. Verification of procedure.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Nigel: board has fiduciary responsibility. Simply to say we just follow the process is easy. But we also need to take ownership of the decisions we make. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Bernard: variety of approaches by the Board over the years</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">BWG noted: Revocation of a ccTLD: no documentation on iana website. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Conclusion: BWG will meet weekly to develop questions for ICANN legal regarding binding, which will be presented to the full group first.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Eberhard: if we abide by the rule against bias, where an external arbitrator makes a decision that sticks. Whatever external may mean</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Bernard: that is indeed a definition of binding, which matches up with your definition of fundamental fairness</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Nigel: I'm thinking that even if much of the IRP principles can be adopted into our policy, we may have additional things to take into account the international nature of the relationship between
most ccTLDs and ICANN</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">Stephen welcomes feedback by all regarding the way he manages the meetings.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">1 September</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">, 20 UTC</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;text-align:justify"><span style="color:black">The small WG will not be ready by 18 August, several meetings needed before being able to deliver a coherent proposal. Earliest ready on 1 sept. 10 people took the poll during today’s meeting. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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