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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">NOTES | ccPDP3-RM | 6 April 2022 at 19:00 UTC</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> </span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">1. Welcome & roll call</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Welcome by Stephen Deerhake</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Apologies from Patricio Poblete and Maarten Simon. </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">To explore whether Patricio’s commitment prevents him from attending in future meetings, if they are scheduled at 19 UTC.</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">2. Administrative Items (if any)</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><b><i><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Action Items<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">None</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><b><i><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Letter to Council re ICANN Legal<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Answer received. See email from Sam Eisner to mailing list. </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Response by ICANN Legal to binding WG of the ccPDP process on RM regarding “binding” appeals. Document dated 5 April 2022 displayed in the zoom room, Sam Eisner speaks to the document.</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Stephen: legal prefers us to work within IRP, but carved out from bylaws? What is the way forward?</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Sam: is this an IRP or not? Lessons to be learned out of IRP. practice to be leveraged. </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Do you need that final guarantee of enforceability in a court, if you have the other protections provided by the icann bylaws? Reach a “as binding as possible” decision on icann</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Eberhard: we just overlooked it in WS1. retirement is de facto a revocation without transfer. IRP standards are informative: i agree. We do not need 2 mechanisms. That is against the
spirit of the thing. Perhaps to be rectified in the bylaws. </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">IRP says: you cannot bring in new documentation. Hard for small ccTLDs. </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Sam: reconsideration process on publicly available info. IRP does not have that limitation. Part is also addressed in the standard of review. What will be tested? Value of pre-filing
conciliation opportunities. </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Goal of a more streamlined process.</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Eberhard: we must be careful that small ccTLDs are treated fairly. Resources should not prevent you from using the process.</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Stephen: thank you for the overview. The group needs some time to reflect on this, due to the submission of the document shortly before the start of this meeting. Thank you for the response</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Sam: we will commit to be clear on timelines. Icann legal remains available</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">3. Sessions at ICANN74</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">4. Non-binding document (continue)</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Bernie: we went over the detailed process last time</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Page 3: admin objectives. Meaning of “fast”. </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Question on that fix? None</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">>>> the administrator</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">No questions or comments</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">>>> arbitrators</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Bernie will incorporate some guidelines, as proposed by Nick.</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Definition of what significant is</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Any questions? none</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">5. Next meetings</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> 20 April 2022. 19:00 UTC</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> 4 May 2022. 19:00 UTC</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> 18 May 2022. 19:00 UTC</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">6. AOB</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Stephen encourages the sub-group members on binding to review Sam’s e-mail. Analysis expected by the meeting in 2 weeks.<b> </b></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Eberhard: we will try to arrange a meeting for the sub-group members on binding ahead of the next meeting, to align our feedback and input.</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">7. Closure</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Thank you all. bye</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Joke Braeken<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">joke.braeken@icann.org<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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