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<p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">NOTES | ccPDP3 Review Mechanism teleconference | 1 June at 19:00 UTC</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Welcome by Chair Stephen</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Alejandra reached out to Patricio, following Stephen’s request during the May Council meeting. He will provide an update where the ad hoc group is at, during
the upcoming Council meeting</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Review presentation policy update at icann74<o:p></o:p></span></b></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Tuesday, 14 June | 11:15-12:30 UTC (Princess Ariane)</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Eberhard offering to be in the overflow room</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Bernie speaks to the slide deck.</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Allan: use of term binding - lightweight?</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Stephen: after Sam’s input it became clear that an independent binding mechanism is not an option.</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Eberhard: does not want anything related to ccNSO becoming part of the IRP. outdated terminology by mistake? Must be removed. Regarding (non)bindingness
of the mechanism: open. We call the mechanism “lightweight”, to avoid the use of binding and non-binding. </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Allan: agrees. </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Eberhard: avoid use of adjectives during this update. </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Stephen: seems like all agree with the direction we are going in.</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Maarten: agrees. But worries we do take a turn from binding to non-binding, and we do not present it. This is complicated. But do we still meet the expectations
from the outside world?</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Stephen: we are ok, when looking at our charter. </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Irina: I tend to agree with Maarten. Probably not going deeply into details. but mention that the mechanism might have certain limitations</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Bernie: if we have too many details with the general audience, we might lose them</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Last slides contain specific results. We are well within our charter. We do not serve the community very well by going down a number of rabbit holes. Do
not forget there will be 2 comment periods. </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Allan: what are we saying about the issue of the applicability of the existing IRP to retirements and revocation?</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Stephen: what does the WG think is appropriate?</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Allan: not for us as a group to decide, but to deflect to the broader community that there is an issue. We should indicate that the icann legal advice has
suggested that ccTLD may not be carved out of the IRP. WG continues to discuss this with icann legal. We have to deal with it at some point. </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Eberhard: does not think we should mention icann legal. Instead, mention that we noticed that IRP uses terminology which is no longer used. Retirement and
revocation should be covered. Retirement is a non-issue, because it is so rare. Redelegation means revocation and transfer. </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Maarten: first point. Well explained why we do not focus on the binding non-binding issue. Fine with that for now. Regarding the carve-out: is it something
for us to do anything with. Simply flag to the council and see what they want to do with it?</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Stephen: leaves it up to the group. </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Eberhard: not a matter for council, but for community. Perhaps mentioning it a few times raises attention, and we see what happens.</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Allan: We have to flag the issue. We are not coming to a consensus on what to do, before we meet in The Hague. Flag as an issue that has arisen. We are
going to deliberate.</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Bernie: reasonable. Icann legal told us we are looking at it this way, but they want to know what “we” (undetermined) think. Flag issue, no suggestions
on how to handle it. Will adjust one bullet in the slide, after we mention icann legal. </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Thank you all! Bye</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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