<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">Hi everyone<div><br></div><div>I’m neither going to add or subtract specifically to the list, but I noted this comment;</div><div><br></div><div><ul type="disc" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin-top: 0cm;"><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left: 0cm; text-align: justify;"><span lang="EN-US">Not a fan of a line-by-line going through the document. Would have preferred discussing around central focus points. It is hard to stay engaged. Too focused on text on the page, rather than focusing on the principles. Staff support to draft afterwards. Editorial phase should be a smaller portion of the work</span></li></ul><div style="text-align: justify;"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" size="3"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br></span></font></div><div style="text-align: justify;">Maybe there is a happy medium that can be found. The line by line and the conversation that went on around specific terms or wording I found invaluable to understanding the none native English speaking barrier that I’ve subsequently picked up and become much more aware of elsewhere.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br></div><div style="text-align: justify;">At the same time I do like the wider conversation, or thematic approach as the discussion can lead to new ideas.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br></div><div style="text-align: justify;">I do want to point out I also feel the line by line with multiple eyes looking at it led to a superior product. </div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br></div><div style="text-align: justify;">Sean</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Mar 16, 2023, at 10:23, Joke Braeken via Ccpdp-rm <ccpdp-rm@icann.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">During the informal meeting by the ccPDP3-RM group in Cancun, those attending reflected on what went well and what should be improved regarding this policy development process. Do you have any items to add to this list?
Please respond to this thread. Thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Best regards, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Joke<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<h1 style="text-align:justify"><span lang="EN-US">ccPDP3-RM postmortem ICANN76 | 16 March 2023, 09:00 local<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><b><span lang="EN-US">What went well?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Good result<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">No big controversy<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">Familiarity with way people worked helped<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">Specific personalities in the WG<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">Involved in previous WG<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">We got it done<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">Chided by the Board because it was taking long. Ironic. GNSO NextGen and new gTLD round is ongoing for several years<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">Bart and Bernie are used to personalities and the way of work organisation<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">We did fine on time<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">First WG followed from the beginning. Start was hard, but there was a clear focus to make it happen and to have it done<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">Amazing staff support. Impressed by Bernie’s work. Diplomatic approach.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">Accessibility of Stephen and Bernie was very much appreciated by Kim C.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">First establish basic principles how to deal with RM. Thus, isolate major issues, or controversial topics and revisit later<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">The WG started and closed during the pandemic. Only once met in person. good that people knew each other previously.
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<span lang="EN-US">Cadence of meetings was good<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">Second reading was valuable<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">Good turnout<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">Good to have people with legal background<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">Intermediary updates on progress. Both during icann meetings and written.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><b><span lang="EN-US">What needs improvement?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Not a fan of a line-by-line going through the document. Would have preferred discussing around central focus points. It is hard to stay engaged. Too focused on text on the page, rather than focusing on the principles. Staff support to
draft afterwards. Editorial phase should be a smaller portion of the work<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">Finding the right balance: discussing structure and main content, but in the end, there is need to go line by line<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">For various reasons (shyness, language barriers), you do not get into gear until people see something in writing.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">Language barriers. People that contribute are strong English speakers<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">Scheduling. Same time: often meetings clashed with other commitments. Rotating would be better. Rotation combined with 2<sup>nd</sup> reading<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">Span of time was difficult, duration of the process: we committed to something and planned accordingly. And then things extended. That makes it a scheduling issue.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">Community interaction. Very few people can follow. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">For average community members, the policy matters seem “far from my bed”. We should present the results in an easier to understand manner. People need to have a clear understanding on what they are going to vote on.
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<span lang="EN-US">Regular check-ins with community members: have preferences changed?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang="EN-US">Set expectations: when we need the answer<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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