[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] lotsa money, was Fwd: Board reply to CCWG-AP

[Daniel Dardailler]

On 2017-09-05 16:21, Jon Nevett wrote:
> Sean:  No refunds from the auction proceeds were committed to or
> anticipated. Not sure where this idea is coming from. Jon

There was a mixup in the thread at some point between refunding the 
applicants of the surplus of applicant fees, and refunding the 
applicants going to auctions using the auction benefits. I think the 
second is clearly out but I'm still wondering if the first one is a real 
option.


> 
>> On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> +1 to that Alberto line of reasoning Alberto. Though it will be good
>> to know if ICANN has indeed legally committed (as per contract) to
>> provide some refunds from auction proceed.
>> 
>> If that is the case i don't think its something within our scope to
>> challenge we will just then need to clarify from ICANN how much is
>> really available and accessible in the auction proceeds account.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Alberto Soto
>> <asoto at ibero-americano.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> do not know how the signed contract is. I do not know if the
>>> return is
>>> correct. Whoever buys a restaurant and does not get profitability
>>> does so at
>>> their own risk. Who buys a domain and does not obtain
>>> profitability, does so
>>> at their own risk. ICANN should not be the guarantee if no
>>> profitability is
>>> obtained.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Alberto
>>> 
>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>> De: ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org
>>> [mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org] En nombre de
>>> Daniel
>>> Dardailler
>>> Enviado el: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 6:56 AM
>>> Para: John R. Levine <johnl at iecc.com>
>>> CC: ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
>>> Asunto: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] lotsa money, was Fwd: Board
>>> reply to
>>> CCWG-AP
>>> 
>>> On 2017-09-04 23:48, John R. Levine wrote:
>>>>> Is the current financial position of ICANN really an impediment
>>> to
>>>>> what ICANN wants to do in support of its mission ? I was under
>>> the
>>>>> impression that ICANN's budget was healthy enough to implement
>>> its
>>>>> mission optimally today, with also a large untouched pot coming
>>> from
>>>>> the new gTLD application process (unused legal costs if I
>>> understand
>>>>> correctly).
>>>> 
>>>> Not really.  ICANN's operating budget is fully committed.  There
>>> is
>>>> indeed a lot of unspent new gTLD application money, but it's a
>>> whole
>>>> separate can of worms.  It's not ours to spend and since ICANN
>>> said
>>>> the price was set to cover their costs, the obvious and ethical
>>> thing
>>>> to do will be to refund the excess to the applicants.
>>> 
>>> I kind of agree with the ethical part (although I haven't read the
>>> contract
>>> those applicants signed and what was promised in writing) but is
>>> it really
>>> going to be obvious to refund hundreds of applicants, some of them
>>> potentially gone as a business ?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> R's,
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> PS:
>>>>> How is it different to give away the funds to the ICANN
>>> community
>>>>> (for projects aligned with the ICANN mission) vs. to give them
>>> back
>>>>> to the board directly, given that the board is driven by the
>>> community ?
>>>> 
>>>> Well, actually, it's the board's money to give away, not ours.
>>> We're
>>>> just offering them advice.
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