[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Conflict Of Interest, was Fwd: Board reply to CCWG-AP

Daniel Dardailler danield at w3.org
Tue Sep 5 14:59:23 UTC 2017

Same reaction here Marc.

I participate in this group with the clear agenda that some of these 
funds go to support Internet SDOs working for the Open Internet (which, 
btw, are the main driver for ICANN success in registering addresses and 
names). I worked for many of them in my career and may not work for the 
one I'm currently working now when these funds are open for granting. 
W3C, my current employer, may even choose not to apply for all I know, 
since it's going to be a community decision on our side.

If you're at the table with the agenda of getting support for 
"exponentially growing cybersecurity threats", then it doesn't matter 
that you're working for an organization already working on this topic, 
and in fact, it matters that you are at the table to share your 
experience in this particular area.

On 2017-09-05 16:42, Marilyn Cade wrote:
> Marc, I am not sure you should leave.
> I am just joining as a participant, and in my Declaration I noted that
> I simply don't know if one of my
> advisees -- typically NGOs and ICT associations -- might not apply for
> future funding. I am also on the IGFSA Executive Committee and I don't
> know if IGFSA might apply for sponsoring funds.
> But as long as we all declare our interests, and do it transparent, I
> think that is what is required.
> I do think that it is different for those who participated in an
> auction who might lobby to have funding returned to them to offset
> costs that they incurred, which were clearly indicated as not
> refundable when they submitted a gTLD application, or when they
> decided to participate in an auction.
> But, even the Board of ICANN has many participants with many conflicts
> of interest. Some are more diligent than others in observing those and
> always acknowledging them, perhaps, than others. :-)
> I think that transparency and  honesty is our best policy. But, if we
> lose insights from a diverse part of the ICANN stakeholder community,
> we will become less informed.
> M
> -------------------------
> FROM: ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org
> <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Marc Gauw
> <marc.gauw at nlnet.nl>
> SENT: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 10:15 AM
> TO: ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
> SUBJECT: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Conflict Of Interest, was Fwd:
> Board reply to CCWG-AP
> Hi all,
> After reading the Board reply with respect to 'Conflict Of Interest',
> it is getting obvious that the Board does not encourage that
> ccWG-members would also nominate for receiving/dispersing
> auction-funds later-on.
> I have to respect that, and therefor have decided to leave the ccWG
> per today.
> Note that NLnet Foundation over the last 20 years has been very active
> in dispersing our own charity-fund to hundreds of Internet projects,
> the last years primarily on open source and cybersecurity.
> It was our intention to share our 'Internet-charity-experience' with
> this team DURING the ccWG, AND to provide support with dispersing
> parts of the auction-funds to the right non-profit cybersecurity
> projects AFTER the ccWG.
> Now that it retrospectively turns out that the first support may
> exclude us from the second support, we have no choice than to leave
> the ccWG, since potentially receiving a (modest) part of the ICANN
> funds is crucial for our NLnet-battle against exponentially growing
> cybersecurity threats.
> Many thanks for working together with you, and all the best with the
> remaining work in the ccWG !
> Kind regards,
> Marc
> Op 4-9-2017 om 16:29 schreef Erika Mann:
>> Dear All -
>> herewith I'm forwarding Steve's reply to our letter.
>> We will have a first exchange on Thursday this week, during our CCWG
>> AP call. I send Steve already a quick reply, saying that we will
>> discuss the Board letter then for the first time.
>> Best,
>> Erika
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: STEVE CROCKER <steve.crocker at board.icann.org>
>> Date: Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 3:19 PM
>> Subject: Board reply to CCWG-AP
>> To: Erika Mann <erika at erikamann.com>, Ching Chiao
>> <chiao at brandma.co>, Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
>> Cc: Steve Crocker <steve.crocker at board.icann.org>, Marika Konings
>> <marika.konings at icann.org>, Icann-board ICANN
>> <icann-board at icann.org>, Avri Doria <avri at apc.org>, "Sarah B.
>> Deutsch" <sarahbdeutsch at gmail.com>, Board Operations
>> <Board-Ops-Team at icann.org>, Sally Costerton
>> <sally.costerton at icann.org>, Samantha Eisner
>> <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>, Lauren Allison
>> <lauren.allison at icann.org>
>> Dear Erika and Ching,
>> Thank you for your letter received on May 22, 2017 on behalf of the
>> Cross Community Working Group on New gTLD Auction Proceeds (CCWG-AP)
>> in response to the Board email of March 2nd 2017.
>> On behalf of the Board, I am delighted to see that we are aligned
>> in our thinking regarding the points discussed in the original
>> email. Specifically, in response to your letter, please find
>> attached a letter including additional acknowledgements and
>> requested clarifications.
>> Thank you again for your efforts leading this work.
>> Steve
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