[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] lotsa money, was Fwd: Board reply to CCWG-AP

Erika Mann erika at erikamann.com
Tue Sep 5 15:43:19 UTC 2017


I really don't know Daniel. I heard sometimes people arguing for this but I
never noticed that this topic is debated. Maybe someone else knows more.

Erika

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Daniel Dardailler <danield at w3.org> wrote:

> On 2017-09-05 17:17, Erika Mann wrote:
>
>> Indeed, we don't even need to discuss this topic further.
>>
>
> I agree it's out of scope.
>
> Can we just be pointed to the place where these application fees refund
> discussions are happening  ? (e.g. in another ICANN group). Thanks.
>
>
>> Erika
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Jon Nevett <jon at donuts.email> wrote:
>>
>> Sean:  No refunds from the auction proceeds were committed to or
>>> anticipated. Not sure where this idea is coming from. Jon
>>>
>>> On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1 to that Alberto line of reasoning Alberto. Though it will be good
>>> to know if ICANN has indeed legally committed (as per contract) to
>>> provide some refunds from auction proceed.
>>>
>>> If that is the case i don't think its something within our scope to
>>> challenge we will just then need to clarify from ICANN how much is
>>> really available and accessible in the auction proceeds account.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Alberto Soto
>>> <asoto at ibero-americano.org> wrote:
>>> do not know how the signed contract is. I do not know if the return
>>> is
>>> correct. Whoever buys a restaurant and does not get profitability
>>> does so at
>>> their own risk. Who buys a domain and does not obtain profitability,
>>> does so
>>> at their own risk. ICANN should not be the guarantee if no
>>> profitability is
>>> obtained.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Alberto
>>>
>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>> De: ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org
>>> [mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org] En nombre de Daniel
>>> Dardailler
>>> Enviado el: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 6:56 AM
>>> Para: John R. Levine <johnl at iecc.com>
>>> CC: ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
>>> Asunto: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] lotsa money, was Fwd: Board reply
>>> to
>>> CCWG-AP
>>>
>>> On 2017-09-04 23:48, John R. Levine wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is the current financial position of ICANN really an impediment
>>>>>
>>>> to
>>>
>>>> what ICANN wants to do in support of its mission ? I was under
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>
>>>> impression that ICANN's budget was healthy enough to implement
>>>>>
>>>> its
>>>
>>>> mission optimally today, with also a large untouched pot coming
>>>>>
>>>> from
>>>
>>>> the new gTLD application process (unused legal costs if I
>>>>>
>>>> understand
>>>
>>>> correctly).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not really.  ICANN's operating budget is fully committed.  There
>>>>
>>> is
>>>
>>>> indeed a lot of unspent new gTLD application money, but it's a
>>>>
>>> whole
>>>
>>>> separate can of worms.  It's not ours to spend and since ICANN
>>>>
>>> said
>>>
>>>> the price was set to cover their costs, the obvious and ethical
>>>>
>>> thing
>>>
>>>> to do will be to refund the excess to the applicants.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I kind of agree with the ethical part (although I haven't read the
>>> contract
>>> those applicants signed and what was promised in writing) but is it
>>> really
>>> going to be obvious to refund hundreds of applicants, some of them
>>> potentially gone as a business ?
>>>
>>>
>>>> R's,
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> PS:
>>>>
>>>>> How is it different to give away the funds to the ICANN community
>>>>> (for projects aligned with the ICANN mission) vs. to give them
>>>>>
>>>> back
>>>
>>>> to the board directly, given that the board is driven by the
>>>>>
>>>> community ?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, actually, it's the board's money to give away, not ours.
>>>>
>>> We're
>>>
>>>> just offering them advice.
>>>>
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>>
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>>> action!
>>>
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