[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Conflict Of Interest, was Fwd: Board reply to CCWG-AP

Vanda Scartezini vanda at scartezini.org
Tue Sep 5 17:00:14 UTC 2017

 I will make mine your words, Maureen.  Developing regions have other concerns and approaches  normally not taking into account when general rules are developed, in almost all areas, broader as health, education, work etc. it will be similar related to ICANN.

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From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com<mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 12:31
To: Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com<mailto:marilynscade at hotmail.com>>
Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Conflict Of Interest, was Fwd: Board reply to CCWG-AP

I agree with Marilyn. There would be many of us who are in a similar situation. I am from a region of developing countries in the Pacific where there are very few representatives from the region itself within ICANN's volunteer community to represent end-user interests to, first and foremost, fulfil ICANN's mission within the region. But to do this will need support that may be outside of ICANN's scope so that it becomes a chicken and egg situation. Declaring this transparently and honestly is the only thing we can do. I see the potential for some really positive outcomes for end-users in developing regions, yet realise that the few internet-related organisations in my region to which I am connected in some way, are most likely to apply. It begs the question.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:42 AM, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com<mailto:marilynscade at hotmail.com>> wrote:

Marc, I am not sure you should leave.

I am just joining as a participant, and in my Declaration I noted that I simply don't know if one of my

advisees -- typically NGOs and ICT associations -- might not apply for future funding. I am also on the IGFSA Executive Committee and I don't know if IGFSA might apply for sponsoring funds.

But as long as we all declare our interests, and do it transparent, I think that is what is required.

I do think that it is different for those who participated in an auction who might lobby to have funding returned to them to offset costs that they incurred, which were clearly indicated as not refundable when they submitted a gTLD application, or when they decided to participate in an auction.

But, even the Board of ICANN has many participants with many conflicts of interest. Some are more diligent than others in observing those and always acknowledging them, perhaps, than others. :-)

I think that transparency and  honesty is our best policy. But, if we lose insights from a diverse part of the ICANN stakeholder community, we will become less informed.

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Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Conflict Of Interest, was Fwd: Board reply to CCWG-AP

Hi all,

After reading the Board reply with respect to 'Conflict Of Interest', it is getting obvious that the Board does not encourage that ccWG-members would also nominate for receiving/dispersing auction-funds later-on.

I have to respect that, and therefor have decided to leave the ccWG per today.

Note that NLnet Foundation over the last 20 years has been very active in dispersing our own charity-fund to hundreds of Internet projects, the last years primarily on open source and cybersecurity.

It was our intention to share our 'Internet-charity-experience' with this team DURING the ccWG, AND to provide support with dispersing parts of the auction-funds to the right non-profit cybersecurity projects AFTER the ccWG.

Now that it retrospectively turns out that the first support may exclude us from the second support, we have no choice than to leave the ccWG, since potentially receiving a (modest) part of the ICANN funds is crucial for our NLnet-battle against exponentially growing cybersecurity threats.

Many thanks for working together with you, and all the best with the remaining work in the ccWG !

Kind regards,

Op 4-9-2017 om 16:29 schreef Erika Mann:
Dear All -

herewith I'm forwarding Steve's reply to our letter.

We will have a first exchange on Thursday this week, during our CCWG AP call. I send Steve already a quick reply, saying that we will discuss the Board letter then for the first time.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Steve Crocker <steve.crocker at board.icann.org<mailto:steve.crocker at board.icann.org>>
Date: Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 3:19 PM
Subject: Board reply to CCWG-AP
To: Erika Mann <erika at erikamann.com<mailto:erika at erikamann.com>>, Ching Chiao <chiao at brandma.co<mailto:chiao at brandma.co>>, Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org<mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>
Cc: Steve Crocker <steve.crocker at board.icann.org<mailto:steve.crocker at board.icann.org>>, Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org<mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>, Icann-board ICANN <icann-board at icann.org<mailto:icann-board at icann.org>>, Avri Doria <avri at apc.org<mailto:avri at apc.org>>, "Sarah B. Deutsch" <sarahbdeutsch at gmail.com<mailto:sarahbdeutsch at gmail.com>>, Board Operations <Board-Ops-Team at icann.org<mailto:Board-Ops-Team at icann.org>>, Sally Costerton <sally.costerton at icann.org<mailto:sally.costerton at icann.org>>, Samantha Eisner <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org<mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>>, Lauren Allison <lauren.allison at icann.org<mailto:lauren.allison at icann.org>>

Dear Erika and Ching,

Thank you for your letter received on May 22, 2017 on behalf of the Cross Community Working Group on New gTLD Auction Proceeds (CCWG-AP) in response to the Board email of March 2nd 2017.

On behalf of the Board, I am delighted to see that we are aligned in our thinking regarding the points discussed in the original email. Specifically, in response to your letter, please find attached a letter including additional acknowledgements and requested clarifications.

Thank you again for your efforts leading this work.


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