[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description

Wed Sep 6 15:56:21 UTC 2017

BTW, I have meant to mention it for a while, I participate (from a 
distance) in the IGF Dynamic Coalition on Internet Core Values, which 
relates to our Open Internet description.

It's still work-progress, but you can get a recent listing of those core 
values at

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d7pUJzpEBbZPsLLzEaDovlhc4LKAuu8_B4XogIJjG3g/edit

On 2017-09-06 14:43, Daniel Dardailler wrote:
> Hello Sylvia, all
> 
> I like the new definition, but I want to come back to the part that
> refers to "equally accessible to all people for _all purposes_".
> 
> By that core principle, any society where even a few things are
> forbidden to promote (online or else, produce or relay), such as
> negationism (the idea that the holocaust didn't happen), terrorism
> recruitment, etc., would be consider out of the Open Internet.
> 
> And more common illegal purposes abound: copying/serving files without
> rights, fake news, diffamation, etc., and I'm not sure we want to
> reserve the term Open Internet for an ideal world where everybody is
> good except for the censors.
> 
> Either we have to qualify the "purposes", e.g. "all law-abiding
> purposes", and shift the responsibility of openness on those making
> laws, or we need to contextualize "equal access" to transport level
> neutrality, not looking at content.
> 
> 
> On 2017-09-06 03:00, Sylvia Cadena wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> I have checked the document that Marika shared with comments from many
>> of us and incorporated the last ones made on this thread. I hope the
>> attached document serves to structure a preamble (as Erika suggested)
>> in a way that reflects the spirit of the CCWG discussions, and our
>> intent for the auction proceeds funds to make a difference.
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Sylvia
>> 
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>> FROM: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Judith
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>> REPLY-TO: Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
>> DATE: Tuesday, 5 September 2017 at 2:17 pm
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>> SUBJECT: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version
>> open internet definition / description
>> 
>> HI Erika and others,
>> 
>> I like Daniel's summary of Open Internet but we need to also address
>> the issue of accessibility. If you recall Elliott suggested the
>> following
>> 
>> An Internet that is equally accessible to all people for all purposes,
>> and at every level of the stack. At the lower end of the stack, that
>> means no impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient,
>> content, application or type of  data being transmitted.
>> 
>> If we could add the concept of accessibility to your definition I
>> think that would greatly help
>> 
>> I also like Sylvia Cadena's text and hope we can figure out a way to
>> add this to our definition.
>> 
>> That means no impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient,
>> content, application or type of data being transmitted.

>> 
>> That means policy and regulation promote, support, facilitate and
>> guarantee access
>> 
>> That means equality of access at a pragmatic level is ensured by
>> assuring access at prices affordable to all members of society
>> 
>> That means training is available about how to manage, operate and how
>> to use the Internet, as well as education in how to use it effectively
>> 
>> 
>> That means participation on an equal footing at all levels is
>> encouraged, specially by those that might be discriminated against
>> 
>> Best,
>> Judith
>> 
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>> On 9/4/2017 7:04 AM, Daniel Dardailler wrote:
>> 
>>> How about this for a start.
>>> 
>>> ===
>>> 
>>> The concept of “Open Internet”, as referred to in the CCWG
>>> objectives statement, can be described at many levels, e.g.
>>> technogical, business, political, etc, and in particular, at the
>>> societal level:
>>> 
>>> An Open Internet is one where all people are empowered to
>>> contribute and to participate in building a worldwide culture that
>>> opens our hearts and minds by respecting differences. It is an
>>> Internet (i.e. a network of networks) that we, the people of the
>>> world, recognize as ours  — something we have built together for
>>> one another
>>> 
>>> At the technogical level, openness refers to how easily machines can
>>> connect to each others and how stable, scalable, and secure the
>>> network is. The IP routing and numbering systems, the DNS, or the
>>> Open Standard process, have historically been serving an Open
>>> Internet because of the opportunities they have provided to
>>> participate, innovate and compete without artificial impediments
>>> (e.g. patents, walled-garden).
>>> 
>>> At the policy level, supporting the Open Internet happens when for
>>> instance governments put in place regulations that promote, support,
>>> facilitate and guarantee equal connectivity at prices affordable to
>>> all members of society, together with education and training efforts
>>> toward making the next generation more Internet savvy.
>>> 
>>> In an ideal world, an Open Internet is one where no control or
>>> impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content,
>>> application or type of data being transmitted.
>>> 
>>> From that broad description, the CCWG has considered the parts of
>>> the Open Internet that:
>>> - are aligned with the overall ICANN's mission and core
>>> commitments
>>> - are in need of funding for more development support
>>> - are creating value-added for the Open Internet at large
>>> - are consensual enough so that they do not endanger the ICANN
>>> community
>>> 
>>> ...
>>> <and here we need to apply our CCWG "filter" regarding layering,
>>> shared value, political issues, etc>
>>> 
>>> On 2017-08-31 22:44, Marika Konings wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> 
>>>> Hereby attached the updated version of the open internet
>>>> definition /
>>>> description which incorporates the comments and suggestions that
>>>> were
>>>> submitted since the last version. As there are a number of
>>>> definitions
>>>> / descriptions that have been put forward so far, are there any
>>>> volunteers who would like to take a stab at coming up with a draft
>>>> 
>>>> that brings the different perspectives together and addresses the
>>>> different comments and contributions to date which the CCWG could
>>>> review during its next meeting?
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Marika
>>>> 
>>>> _MARIKA KONINGS_
>>>> 
>>>> _Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet
>>>> Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) _
>>>> 
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