[council] Fwd: GA

Mon Aug 20 15:46:49 UTC 2007

Hi,

Thank you for the clarification.

 From my perspective, while there is not a General Assembly, there is  
a GA List, and that list seems to be trying to organize itself and  
become useful contributors.  It is that, specifically list operations  
for a better behaved list, which I am recommending we support.  I am  
not making any recommendations or statements concerning the re- 
introduction of a General Assembly and am explicitly trying to say  
that we have no involvement in the internal organization of the GA list.

I apologize if I was sufficiently clear on this.

a.

On 20 aug 2007, at 11.23, Ross Rader wrote:

> Avri -
>
> One small point of clarification - there is no General Assembly  
> (GA) of the GNSO. There is only a mailing list that was used by the  
> former GA of the DNSO which was not shut down when the DNSO was  
> reformed into the GNSO (at which time the General Assembly was  
> eliminated/not carried forward).
>
> Procedurally speaking, there cannot be a request from the GA  
> because it does not exist. If there is a case to be made to  
> recreate the former GA as part of the GNSO, it should be made as  
> part of the GNSO reform discussion and not considered in isolation.
>
> Avri Doria wrote:
>> Hi,
>> As far as I can tell, we all received a copy of this email from  
>> the GA chair.  Even so, given the council's responsibility for the  
>> GA list, I wanted to send it to the list so that it would be  
>> included in our archives.
>> As an initial approach, I would like to do the following with  
>> regard to the GA charter (found at http://www.geolang.com/ 
>> draftGAListRules5.htm):
>> - Acknowledge the GA request for consideration of their charter.
>> - Given the council's by-law responsibilities for the moderation  
>> of the GA list, encourage them in taking steps to bring order and  
>> discipline to the GA list and indicate that they have the  
>> council's support in implementing the mailing list rules indicated  
>> in Section 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7 with the following exception in  
>> section 2:
>>> The Announce list is available for official pronouncements only.  
>>> Emanating from the Secretariat of the NC and/or the Chair of the GA
>>>
>> In this case, the GA-announce list is solely for the use of the  
>> GNSO Secretariat for notifying the GA subscribers of GNSO and  
>> other ICANN informational items.  I do not recommend we make any  
>> change at this time in this list's status.
>> - With regard to the organizational sections of the charter,  
>> specifically 6, 8, and 9, indicate that the GA is free to  
>> determine its own organizational structure, with the following  
>> exceptions in section 8 on elections:
>>>  An election is usually held near the end of the term of office  
>>> for the chair of the General Assembly. The exact time is decided  
>>> by the outgoing Chair and the Chair of the GNSO.
>>> Nominees for the Chair are sent to an email address provided by  
>>> the Secretariat.
>> - With regards to the exceptions listed above, as I read them,  
>> they require activity by the council, its chair and secretariat  
>> that are not specifically mandated by the by-laws.  Since the by- 
>> laws governing the GNSO and its governance structure are currently  
>> under review by the ICANN Board and its Governance WG, I recommend  
>> that we postpone any discussion of these issues until after the  
>> GSNO council's new governance situation is settled and understood.
>> I should also point out that there was an earlier request that the  
>> GNSO council create another public discussion list, similar to the  
>> GA list but limited to members of existing GNSO constituencies.   
>> The request was independently submitted by a member of one GNSO  
>> constituency, but was not backed up by that constituency at that  
>> time, so I did not take it further.  I am bringing it up now for  
>> completeness sake.
>> I suggest that we try and resolve the issue of my response to the  
>> GA request over the email list.  If there is need I will list this  
>> item under AOB in the next agenda, but if there are no objections  
>> to the response I suggest or to a modification of the response  
>> that we can agree to on the list, perhaps I can go ahead with a  
>> response without the need for a specific agenda item.
>> Thanks
>> a.
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> From: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204 at yahoo.com>
>>> Date: 18 augusti 2007 12.23.50 EDT
>>> To: avri at psg.com
>>> Subject: GA
>>>
>>> Dear Councilors,
>>>
>>> This letter is a formal request from the GNSO General Assembly  
>>> for recognition of our List Rules and for a directive that we be  
>>> allowed to interface with those in control of the List in order  
>>> to implement our new rules.
>>>
>>> Our GA list will be more effective in contributing to the  
>>> business of the GNSO if we are allowed a modicum of self  
>>> governance. Within the Rules we have provided for reasonable self  
>>> organization and a disciplinary regimen.
>>>
>>> We are mindful of the differences which from time to time may  
>>> exist between the GA and the existing structural members of  
>>> ICANN. It is by establishing procedures and restraints that we  
>>> hope to change those differences into contributions.
>>>
>>> Please earnestly consider this request.
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>> Eric Hugh Dierker
>>> GA Chair
>>>
>>> http://www.geolang.com/draftGAListRules5.htm
>>> or
>>> http://www.geolang.com/draftGAListRules5.txt
>>>
>>>
>>> Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
>
>
> -- 
> Regards,
>
> Ross Rader
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