[council] RE: [council] RE: [council] RE: [council] Re: Council vote on by-laws (from Stéphane)

[Gomes, Chuck]

Nothing has been communicated to the Board regarding the vote.  As Avri communicated in our call last week, each person who abstained was to be given an opportunity to confirm that their reason for abstaining was recorded accurately.  Glen sent a draft of the action on the motion with proposed abstention language to the applicable Councilors and we are still waiting for responses.
 
Chuck


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	From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Tony Holmes
	Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:42 AM
	To: 'William Drake'
	Cc: 'GNSO Council List'
	Subject: [council] RE: [council] RE: [council] Re: Council vote on by-laws (from Stéphane)
	
	

	Well, if that's the case and the Board know everything anyway, then why bother to have a vote at all???

	 

	But as there was a vote, I would appreciate knowing what if anything has happened since.

	 

	
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	From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch] 
	Sent: 13 July 2009 13:22
	To: Tony Holmes
	Cc: 'GNSO Council List'
	Subject: Re: [council] RE: [council] Re: Council vote on by-laws (from Stéphane)

	 

	Perhaps we should create a drafting team?  Or a team to draft a charter for a drafting team?  We could be ready to report the vote in August...

	 

	After all the public pronouncements and back channel communications, is there really any chance that the board does not know where the constituencies stand on the bylaws?  Why spend time negotiating how to package and spoon feed them things they already know?  Why not just report the vote per usual and move on?  

	 

	Bill

	 

	 

	On Jul 13, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Tony Holmes wrote:

	
	
	

	

	Does that mean we can all indicate how we would have voted to the Board?

	 

	Avri - could you provide can update of where we are with this. Have you communicated anything at all to the Board regarding this vote yet?

	 

	Tony

	 

	
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	From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of William Drake
	Sent: 13 July 2009 11:56
	To: GNSO Council List
	Subject: [council] Re: Council vote on by-laws (from Stéphane)

	 

	 

	 

	Begin forwarded message:

	
	
	
	

	From: Stephvg2 <stephvg2 at gmail.com>

	Date: July 13, 2009 12:49:25 PM GMT+02:00

	To: William Drake <william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch>

	Cc: Tim Ruiz <tim at godaddy.com>, Avri Doria <avri at psg.com>

	Subject: Re: [council] Council vote on by-laws

	 

	I agree that Tim's approach is sensible. But if we're aiming for maximum transparency, I would also like it be recorded that in my message before the meeting stating I would be unable to participate, I said I would vote in favor. This may also be useful info for the Board.
	
	I'm not sure I can post to the Council list from this, my secondary email address, so perhaps one of you would be kind enough to forward this message to the Council list.
	
	Thanks,
	
	Stéphane
	
	Envoyé de mon iPhone
	
	Le 13 juil. 2009 à 11:03, William Drake <william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch> a écrit :
	
	
	
	

	 

		Hi

		 

		Avri's proposed approach is sensible and would be NCUC's preference.  However, if there's overwhelming sentiment that differentiated reporting is needed, it would be better to respect board members' intelligence and dispense with the transparent spinning.  Tim's approach would be preferable in that context.

		 

		Bill

		 

		 

		On Jul 10, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Tim Ruiz wrote:

		 

			 

			Would it be okay to report the vote something like this:

			 

			13 Votes in favor:

			Tim Ruiz (RrC) 2 votes

			Chuck Gomes (RyC) 2 votes

			Avri Doria (NCA) 1 vote

			etc.

			 

			1 Vote against:

			Cyril Chua (IPC) 1 vote

			 

			Abstained:

			Kristina Rosette (IPC) Statement

			William Drake (NCUC) Statement

			 

			Not present:

			Philip Sheppard (CBUC)

			Anthony Harris (ISPC)

			etc.

			 

			Tim

			 

			-------- Original Message --------

			Subject: Re: [council] Council vote on by-laws

			From: "Anthony Harris" <harris at cabase.org.ar>

			Date: Fri, July 10, 2009 9:33 am

			To: "Philip Sheppard" <philip.sheppard at aim.be>, "'Council GNSO'"

			<council at gnso.icann.org>

			 

			 

			Avri,

			 

			Perhaps, in this sunset of the GNSO as we

			have known it, you may see your way to

			accomodating this rather simple request from

			three of the existing constituencies.

			 

			I beleive that all of us are trying to get the

			restructuring process "right", and certain

			issues are important to some rather than to

			others. I think the Board deserves to be

			aware of this.

			 

			Thank you.

			 

			Tony Harris

			 

			----- Original Message -----

			From: "Philip Sheppard" <philip.sheppard at aim.be>

			To: "'Council GNSO'" <council at gnso.icann.org>

			Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:28 AM

			Subject: [council] Council vote on by-laws

			 

			 

				 

				 

				Avri,

				this request is about transparency and relevance.

				It is a formal request from the BC.

				Philip

				 

				 

			 

			 

		 

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