[council] Fwd: Update on "Expressions of Interest" Group

Thu Nov 12 20:05:03 UTC 2009

I don't think the EOI work needs to fall under a PDP process. Tim has  
made what I consider to be a valid point about this on the EOI group  
list. This is just an implementation issue that relates to the GNSO  
recommendations for an orderly and predictable rollout. The EOI would  
not change the application process, or any recommendations of the  
GNSO. It just provides better order and predictability for the  
application process.

Stéphane

Le 10 nov. 2009 à 00:58, Gomes, Chuck a écrit :

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> Von: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- 
> council at gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Gomes, Chuck
> Gesendet: Montag, 9. November 2009 21:37
> An: Stéphane Van Gelder; council at gnso.icann.org
> Betreff: RE: [council] Fwd: Update on "Expressions of Interest" Group
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> I compliment those involved with the EoI group in what I believe are  
> sincere efforts to make some constructive contributions to the new  
> gTLD process.  I think we should always encourage community members  
> to    take initiate and collaborate with other similarly minded  
> community members in developing input to ICANN processes.
>
> I am assuming that they sent a letter to Rod, Peter, Doug and Kurt  
> because the Board passed a motion regarding a possible EoI effort.   
> In that letter they said, "Our consensus-based, cross-community  
> final draft will be presented to staff with minimal delay so that  
> they can take comments from the wider community and subsequently  
> prepare a plan for the Board as called for in the Board  
> resolution."  Based on the proposed membership of the group, I  
> conclude that they define 'cross-community' as those who are  
> strongly interested in speeding up the new gTLD process, so when  
> they say 'consensus-based', it appears that they mean consensus of  
> like minded parties.  That is okay in my opinion as long as they are  
> clear about that and don't try to represent their efforts otherwise.
>
> Their efforts are clearly not an effort of the GNSO because they  
> have not made any efforts to communicate with the GNSO Council in  
> its role as the policy management body for the GNSO.  As far as I am  
> aware, they have not asked the GNSO Council to provide an observer  
> to their group.  I am not suggesting that they are in any way  
> required to involve the Council, but at some point it seems to me  
> that the issues they are confronting will need to come back to the  
> GNSO.  Without being critical in any way, they may not want this to  
> be a GNSO process because, if it was, we would need to follow the  
> GNSO PDP in the Bylaws.
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> Because we have not received a request to provide an observer, it  
> doesn't seem to me that we are in a position to provide an observer.  
> If they did invite the Council to provide an observer on behalf of  
> the GNSO, what would the role of that observer be?  We would need to  
> understand that before making any decisions.
>
> Based on what we know right now, I don't think there is anything to  
> prevent Stephane from participating in the EoI group as long as it  
> is clear that he is doing so strictly in his personal capacity and  
> not as a representative from the Council.
>
> Other thoughts are welcome.
>
> Chuck
>
> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- 
> council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:35 PM
> To: council at gnso.icann.org
> Subject: [council] Fwd: Update on "Expressions of Interest" Group
>
>
> Hello all.
>
> Please find below, and attached, information on an "expressions of  
> interest" group that is being formed in response to one of the Board  
> resolutions from the Seoul meeting.
>
> Please note that although I am listed as GNSO Observer, I have made  
> no claims to holding such status. I was invited to join in a  
> personal capacity and requested if I could inform the Council of the  
> existence of the group.
>
> If the Council would like me to play the role of observer to this  
> group, I would be happy to do so. If however the Council wishes for  
> someone else to play that role, I would be happy to forward that  
> name to the group and have their initial charter/proposal amended to  
> reflect this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stéphane
>
> Début du message réexpédié :
>
>> De : Antony Van Couvering <avc at mindsandmachines.com>
>> Date : 6 novembre 2009 17:18:17 HNEC
>> À : Liz Williams <lizawilliams at mac.com>
>> Cc : Jothan Frakes <jothan at mindsandmachines.com>, Alexander  
>> Schwertner <as at epag.de>, bdelachapelle at gmail.com, Johannes Lenz- 
>> Hawliczek <lenz at dotberlin.de>, Nick Wood <nick.wood at comlaude.com>, mcgradyp at gtlaw.com 
>> , Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder at indom.com>, Ruiz Tim <tim at godaddy.com 
>> >
>> Objet : Update on "Expressions of Interest" Group
>>
>> Hi everyone and thank you for either showing up at our initial  
>> meeting on October 29 in Seoul, or if you didn't, thanks for  
>> expressing your willingness to work with us going forward.
>>
>> Jothan and I and Liz Williams have been working to get our  
>> documents in order.   I attach them here:
>>
>> 1. Our charter
>> 2. Our draft proposal, incorporating input taken during our first  
>> meeting
>>
>> If you have comments, please note them and present them at our  
>> first teleconference, which will be Monday, Nov. 16.
>>
>> We have set ourselves a tight schedule (see "timeline" in the  
>> proposal), but we may be heartened by the fact that the question at  
>> hand is not a complicated one.   We foresee having  two phone calls  
>> over the next 10 days after which a draft proposal will be sent to  
>> the ICANN staff for their polish (we are restricted to this  
>> methodology by the wording ICANN Board resolution).
>>
>> In addition to confirming everyone receiving this email, we are  
>> reaching out to others to join our group.   Our prospective panel  
>> is listed in both of the attached documents.   We think it's  
>> representative of a good cross-section of the ICANN community, as  
>> well being geographically diverse, and we believe that these are  
>> people who will work to achieve consensus.   We don't know how many  
>> will agree but we hope most.
>>
>> One of us will be in touch soon to provide call-in information for  
>> our first call, scheduled for Monday.
>>
>> I am of course available for questions, as is Liz.
>>
>> Thanks for your participation,
>>
>> Antony
>>
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