[council] Fwd: Update on "Expressions of Interest" Group

Fri Nov 13 09:25:45 UTC 2009

FYI,

The group has organised two teleconference meetings. The first one was  
at the beginning of the week and the second one is today. I have been  
informed that both calls were organised without ICANN resources. I  
think this is an important piece of information that is worth  
highlighting. I am told today's meeting will be the group's last.

Thanks,

Stéphane

Le 12 nov. 2009 à 22:14, Mike Rodenbaugh a écrit :

> I agree with Chuck and Stephane, except there are other parts of the  
> GNSO Recommendations that also must be followed in any EoI process,  
> particularly the communication plan.
>
> Also, it is possible that any EoI process will lead to efforts to  
> categorize and prioritize the many applications that are expected.   
> That would be a variance from Council’s recommendations, and should  
> fall within Council’s remit to do that work if necessary.  Conflicts  
> of interest will probably be an issue at that point, for many of us.
>
> Mike Rodenbaugh
> RODENBAUGH LAW
> 548 Market Street
> San Francisco, CA  94104
> (415) 738-8087
> http://rodenbaugh.com
>
> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- 
> council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:05 PM
> To: Gomes, Chuck
> Cc: GNSO Council
> Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: Update on "Expressions of Interest" Group
>
> I don't think the EOI work needs to fall under a PDP process. Tim  
> has made what I consider to be a valid point about this on the EOI  
> group list. This is just an implementation issue that relates to the  
> GNSO recommendations for an orderly and predictable rollout. The EOI  
> would not change the application process, or any recommendations of  
> the GNSO. It just provides better order and predictability for the  
> application process.
>
> Stéphane
>
> Le 10 nov. 2009 à 00:58, Gomes, Chuck a écrit :
>
>
>
>
>
> Von: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- 
> council at gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Gomes, Chuck
> Gesendet: Montag, 9. November 2009 21:37
> An: Stéphane Van Gelder; council at gnso.icann.org
> Betreff: RE: [council] Fwd: Update on "Expressions of Interest" Group
>
>
> I compliment those involved with the EoI group in what I believe are  
> sincere efforts to make some constructive contributions to the new  
> gTLD process.  I think we should always encourage community members  
> to take initiate and collaborate with other similarly minded  
> community members in developing input to ICANN processes.
>
> I am assuming that they sent a letter to Rod, Peter, Doug and Kurt  
> because the Board passed a motion regarding a possible EoI effort.   
> In that letter they said, "Our consensus-based, cross-community  
> final draft will be presented to staff with minimal delay so that  
> they can take comments from the wider community and subsequently  
> prepare a plan for the Board as called for in the Board  
> resolution."  Based on the proposed membership of the group, I  
> conclude that they define 'cross-community' as those who are  
> strongly interested in speeding up the new gTLD process, so when  
> they say 'consensus-based', it appears that they mean consensus of  
> like minded parties.  That is okay in my opinion as long as they are  
> clear about that and don't try to represent their efforts otherwise.
>
> Their efforts are clearly not an effort of the GNSO because they  
> have not made any efforts to communicate with the GNSO Council in  
> its role as the policy management body for the GNSO.  As far as I am  
> aware, they have not asked the GNSO Council to provide an observer  
> to their group.  I am not suggesting that they are in any way  
> required to involve the Council, but at some point it seems to me  
> that the issues they are confronting will need to come back to the  
> GNSO.  Without being critical in any way, they may not want this to  
> be a GNSO process because, if it was, we would need to follow the  
> GNSO PDP in the Bylaws.
>
> Because we have not received a request to provide an observer, it  
> doesn't seem to me that we are in a position to provide an observer.  
> If they did invite the Council to provide an observer on behalf of  
> the GNSO, what would the role of that observer be?  We would need to  
> understand that before making any decisions.
>
> Based on what we know right now, I don't think there is anything to  
> prevent Stephane from participating in the EoI group as long as it  
> is clear that he is doing so strictly in his personal capacity and  
> not as a representative from the Council.
>
> Other thoughts are welcome.
>
> Chuck
>
> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- 
> council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:35 PM
> To: council at gnso.icann.org
> Subject: [council] Fwd: Update on "Expressions of Interest" Group
>
>
> Hello all.
>
> Please find below, and attached, information on an "expressions of  
> interest" group that is being formed in response to one of the Board  
> resolutions from the Seoul meeting.
>
> Please note that although I am listed as GNSO Observer, I have made  
> no claims to holding such status. I was invited to join in a  
> personal capacity and requested if I could inform the Council of the  
> existence of the group.
>
> If the Council would like me to play the role of observer to this  
> group, I would be happy to do so. If however the Council wishes for  
> someone else to play that role, I would be happy to forward that  
> name to the group and have their initial charter/proposal amended to  
> reflect this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stéphane
>
> Début du message réexpédié :
>
>
> De : Antony Van Couvering <avc at mindsandmachines.com>
> Date : 6 novembre 2009 17:18:17 HNEC
> À : Liz Williams <lizawilliams at mac.com>
> Cc : Jothan Frakes <jothan at mindsandmachines.com>, Alexander  
> Schwertner <as at epag.de>, bdelachapelle at gmail.com, Johannes Lenz- 
> Hawliczek <lenz at dotberlin.de>, Nick Wood <nick.wood at comlaude.com>, mcgradyp at gtlaw.com 
> , Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder at indom.com>, Ruiz Tim <tim at godaddy.com 
> >
> Objet : Update on "Expressions of Interest" Group
>
> Hi everyone and thank you for either showing up at our initial  
> meeting on October 29 in Seoul, or if you didn't, thanks for  
> expressing your willingness to work with us going forward.
>
> Jothan and I and Liz Williams have been working to get our documents  
> in order.   I attach them here:
>
> 1. Our charter
> 2. Our draft proposal, incorporating input taken during our first  
> meeting
>
> If you have comments, please note them and present them at our first  
> teleconference, which will be Monday, Nov. 16.
>
> We have set ourselves a tight schedule (see "timeline" in the  
> proposal), but we may be heartened by the fact that the question at  
> hand is not a complicated one.   We foresee having  two phone calls  
> over the next 10 days after which a draft proposal will be sent to  
> the ICANN staff for their polish (we are restricted to this  
> methodology by the wording ICANN Board resolution).
>
> In addition to confirming everyone receiving this email, we are  
> reaching out to others to join our group.   Our prospective panel is  
> listed in both of the attached documents.   We think it's  
> representative of a good cross-section of the ICANN community, as  
> well being geographically diverse, and we believe that these are  
> people who will work to achieve consensus.   We don't know how many  
> will agree but we hope most.
>
> One of us will be in touch soon to provide call-in information for  
> our first call, scheduled for Monday.
>
> I am of course available for questions, as is Liz.
>
> Thanks for your participation,
>
> Antony
>
>
>

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