[council] Council wide Nominations are closed - Part 2 Each House determines a Candidate

[Avri Doria]

Hi,

Don't know.  Worth checking.  Though the system may have to be  
reworked for the bi-cameral nature of the vote.

We can certainly do paper ballots where one indicates not only their  
vote but their House.

Do other council members believe this needs to be a secret ballot?

a.

On 15 Oct 2009, at 15:46, Gomes, Chuck wrote:

> Is there any reason why we couldn't hold a live email election?  I  
> don't know the limitations of the election software.
>
> Chuck
>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Rosette, Kristina
>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:25 AM
>> To: avri at psg.com; council at gnso.icann.org
>> Subject: Re: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed -
>> Part 2 Each House determines a Candidate
>>
>>
>> To my recollection, none of our previous elections while I
>> have been on Council have been public.  I thought I'd missed
>> the rationale for holding it publicly.  I've gone back and
>> reviewed the messages I could find, but haven't seen one.  I
>> had thought we would be voting privately in the week
>> beforehand with the results announced at the meeting.
>>
>> I object to our having to hold the election as a roll call
>> vote.  I believe all Councilors should be permitted to cast
>> votes privately.  Casting open ballots will not be conducive
>> to the improved working relationship that many of us have
>> articulated a desire to develop.  Moreover, given that I have
>> found the environment at ICANN meetings generally (including
>> public Council meetings) to be hostile, I believe casting
>> those votes publicly is more likely than not to exacerbate
>> that problem.
>>
>> In sum, I want to vote privately as we've done in the past
>> and have the results announced at the Council meeting.  Doing
>> so has the extra benefit of having a definitive result at the
>> Council meeting (assuming there is a clear winner); no delay
>> from absentee balloting will occur.
>>
>> K
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org <owner-council at gnso.icann.org>
>> To: Council GNSO <council at gnso.icann.org>
>> Sent: Thu Oct 15 03:23:01 2009
>> Subject: Re: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed -
>> Part 2 Each House determines a Candidate
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wanted to ad a few more details to this part of the process.
>>
>> On 15 Oct 2009, at 08:01, Glen de Saint Géry wrote:
>>
>>> B. PROPOSED SCHEDULE FOR THE VOTING
>>>
>>> For this election, the voting will take place at the public Council
>>> meeting in Seoul on Wednesday, 28 October 2009.
>>>
>>> Avri Doria, current GNSO Council chair, will serve as
>> non-voting chair
>>> of the bicameral Council meeting on 28 October until such time as a
>>> new chair is elected, at which time the new chair will assume the
>>> chair responsibilities.
>>>
>>> If an absentee ballot is required to complete the chair's election,
>>> this will be a 24 hour ballot scheduled to end on 29 October. If no
>>> chair has been elected by the end of the Annual meeting on
>> 30 October,
>>> the vice-chairs will assume the chair responsibilities as
>> defined in
>>> the Bylaws and a runoff will be scheduled as determined in
>> the Council
>>> Procedures.
>>>
>>> The winning candidate needs 60% of the votes of each house.
>>>
>>> The Council shall inform the Board and the Community
>> appropriately and
>>> post the election results on the GNSO website within 2
>> business days
>>> following the election.
>>>
>>> In the event that the GNSO Council has not elected a GNSO Council
>>> Chair by the end of the previous Chair's term, the Vice-Chairs will
>>> serve as Interim GNSO Co-Chairs until a successful election can be
>>> held.
>>
>> Since this election will be done in the meeting, I am
>> planning to hold it as an open vote via a roll call.  This
>> will be the second major item on the agenda, after a vote on
>> any amendments to the proposed Operating Procedures the new
>> Operating Procedures as possibly amended.
>>
>> I am hoping that all of the council members will be available
>> for the vote, either in person or via remote communications,
>> so that the election can be completed on the Wednesday, even
>> if it needs to go to two rounds.  If we do not have everyone
>> available for the call, then we will need to go a 24 hour
>> absentee ballot on each round.  This means that the first
>> round would not end until Thursday morning.  If necessary we
>> could schedule a second round for Thursday, though we would
>> then need to allow for voting at the Thursday meeting, which
>> would be an exception to our normal practice.  In this case a
>> second absentee ballot would end on Friday afternoon.  In any
>> case, the goal is to enable the election of the new chair, if
>> at all possible, by the end of the Seoul meeting.
>>
>> As I said, I am hoping we can avoid needing to do an absentee
>> ballot so I hope that any council member who cannot attend
>> the meeting can participate remote in al least the first part
>> of the Wednesday meeting.
>>
>> Assuming we have a different candidate from each House, each
>> council member polled would in turn be able to vote for:
>>
>> Candidate chosen by Contracted Parties House (CP House or,
>> Candidate chosen by Non Contracted Parties House (NCP House)
>> or, None of the above
>>
>> (In the case of a single candidate chosen by both Houses, the
>> vote would resemble the second round procedure below)
>>
>> The votes would be tabulated separately according to House,
>> though the roll will be called alphabetically.
>>
>> To  succeed a candidate needs 60% or each house.  This means  5 out  
>> of
>> 7 votes for the CP House and 8 out of 13 votes for the NCP House.
>>
>>  - If either the CP House candidate  or NCP House candidate
>> get 60% of each House, he or she will have been elected and
>> will take over as chair of the meeting at that point.
>>
>> - If 'None of the above' gets 60% of each house, then the
>> election is halted and rescheduled for a month later.  In
>> this case the two vice- chairs will take over as interim
>> co-chairs at the end of the week.
>>
>> - If neither of the candidates (or "none of the above") gets
>> the required 60% of each house, then a second round is called for.
>>
>> Assuming every one is present on Wednesday morning, we can
>> hold this second round vote immediately, otherwise we can
>> hold it on Thursday.
>>
>> The second roll call vote will be between:
>>
>> The candidate who received the greatest combined percentage
>> of the votes when the results of each house is summed to the
>> other (Percentage from CP House + Percentage from NCP House)
>> or, None of the above
>>
>> If the candidate receives 60% votes of each House ( out of 7
>> votes for the CP House and 8 out of 13 votes for the NCP
>> House) then that candidate has been elected and will take
>> over as chair of the meeting at that point.
>>
>> Otherwise, the election then the election is halted and
>> rescheduled for a month later.  In this case the two
>> vice-chairs will take over as interim co-chairs at the end of
>> the week.
>>
>> I believe this process follows from the rules set for the
>> election of chairs in the new bi-cameral council.  I very
>> much look forward to completing a successful election on
>> Wednesday morning.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> a.
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