[council] Council wide Nominations are closed - Part 2 Each House determines a Candidate

Stéphane Van Gelder stephane.vangelder at indom.com
Sat Oct 17 11:51:38 UTC 2009


Do we really need to go so deep into this that we are now wondering whether
councillors can be trusted by their SGs and so on?

On a personal level, I prefer to have an open vote. If people run for
election, and then hold a grudge against those who do not vote for them,
then they should not run period. Also, I prefer a totally transparent vote.

But that's just me. At least one us feels very strongly about not having it
open and has requested that we do not. That view should be heard and
respected. As a result, it has been suggested that we vote on whether the
elections should be an open ballot or a closed one. So let's just do that
and move on.

Stéphane


Le 17/10/09 13:33, « Rosette, Kristina » <krosette at cov.com> a écrit :

> 
> My SG should trust me enough and have enough respect for my integrity such
> that my word alone is sufficient. If they don't, it calls into question
> whether I should be one of its representatives as well as whether I want to be
> its representative if there is so little trust and respect.  If that's the
> case, I sure hope they'll speak up before I give up any more of my time to
> this role.
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org <owner-council at gnso.icann.org>
> To: Tim Ruiz <tim at godaddy.com>; GNSO Council  <council at gnso.icann.org>
> Sent: Sat Oct 17 03:40:25 2009
> Subject: RE: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed - Part 2 Each House
> determines a Candidate
> 
> 
> But how do you prove to your SG that is actually what you voted (and that you
> represented them appropriately?).
> 
> Adrian Kinderis
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On
> Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
> Sent: Saturday, 17 October 2009 4:16 AM
> To: GNSO Council 
> Subject: RE: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed - Part 2 Each House
> determines a Candidate
> 
> 
> Chuck raises an important point. Do the CSG Councilors intend that their
> votes be secret even within their SG? A secret ballot at the Council
> level is a different issue from keeping Councilors' votes secret from
> their constituents.
> 
> Tim 
>  
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed - Part 2
> Each House determines a Candidate
> From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com>
> Date: Fri, October 16, 2009 10:08 am
> To: "Mary Wong" <MWong at piercelaw.edu>
> Cc: "Council GNSO" <council at gnso.icann.org>
> 
> Strictly from a personal point of view:
> 
> + I favor an open ballot for accountability and transparency reasons,
> but I also respect the concerns of individual Councilors.
> 
> + If just one Councilor requests a secret ballot, I then am fine with a
> secret ballot with at least one caveat that the votes of each SG's reps
> be communicated to the SG.
> 
> + If am fine with Avri's suggestion to poll the Council regarding
> whether to hold a secret or open ballot.
> 
> 
> I have raised this issue on the RySG list and am waiting their
> direction.  In the end I will respond to the poll in accordance with
> that direction and not my personal views.
>  
> Chuck
> 
> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org]
> On Behalf Of Mary Wong
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:18 AM
> Cc: Council GNSO
> Subject: Re: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed - Part 2 Each
> House determines a Candidate
> 
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> On Oct 15, 2009, at 3:56 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>> Do other council members believe this needs to be a secret ballot?
> 
> I think that at a time when there seems to be a lot of mistrust amongst
> the ICANN community and. more importantly, when there are many new
> entrants/participants and Councillors, it's important to have complete
> transparency in the GNSO processes. As such, I don't support the idea of
> a secret ballot in this case.
> 
> Cheers
> Mary
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