[council] NCAs in the new GNSO Council structure

Fri Sep 11 14:37:27 UTC 2009

see my additional comments below.  (I have *not* yet gotten IPC input -
these are my personal comments.)  

It seems reasonable to require that we have current Statements of
Interest from each of the NCA appointees before making a decision 

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	From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
	Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:24 AM
	To: Olga Cavalli
	Cc: GNSO Council
	Subject: RE: [council] NCAs in the new GNSO Council structure

	Thanks Olga for the input.  Please see my responses below.

	Chuck

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		From: olgacavalli at gmail.com
[mailto:olgacavalli at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Olga Cavalli
		Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:04 PM
		To: Gomes, Chuck
		Cc: GNSO Council
		Subject: Re: [council] NCAs in the new GNSO Council
structure

		Hi,
		being an NCA, I would like to add my thoughts in
relation to our role in the new GNSO:

		*	
			Option a:  The NCAs talk it through and figure
out which roles seem right to them.

		Could be a valid option, but one of the NCAs will be new
in the council, so he could hardly figure out which role to select.
		[Gomes, Chuck] Regardless of how the Council ultimately
decides to make this decision, I think that the input from the NCAs
would be useful in making that decision.  Also, I think it would be fine
to at least invite Andrey to participate in your discussion along with
the three existing NCAs.  
		[KR]:  I agree that input will be helpful, but should
not be dispositive.  See my comment on Option d below.

		*	
			Option b:  Random selection.

		In my oppinon it brings no value in it. 

			*	
				Option c:  The council members decide
with random selection of which House chooses first.

		This is another version of the random selection. 

			*	
				Option d:  The two Houses collaborate
and decide among them where the NCAs will be assigned.

		This could be an option but perhaps it should add a
possible refusal by the NCA, in the case that he/she is not in favour of
serving one of the houses or becoming a homeless. What I want to say is
that it sounds unfair just say where NCAs go and not having any feedback
about their expectations.
		[Gomes, Chuck] You make a valid point Olga.  I don't
think we would benefit very much if an NCA was placed in a place where
they didn't want to be or thought they could not add much value.  
		[KR]:  I agree that NCA input is useful, but not
dispositive.  For example, one NCA will have to be non-voting (can we
not use "homeless", please?).  If all three "refuse" to be the
non-voting NCA and we've committed to honoring those preferences, we've
created quite a mess for ourselves.   

			*	
				Option e:  The new, inexperienced NCA
rep assumes the non-voting Council seat and one of the above options is
used to assign the two House seats.

		It should not be for the two years, it takes out the
stress to voting in the first meetings, where there is a lot to read and
sometimes it is hard to decide.
		[Gomes, Chuck] It seems to me that we could specify that
the assignments are for one year only and request that the NomCom be
tasked with assigning all three NCAs to seats in the following year.  
		[KR] I like Chuck's suggestion.   

		The problem I see with this approach is that the fact of
voting necesarily pushes towards understanding, reading, asking, which
at the beginning is challenging and good for the future performance of
the NCA in the council. If you are new and you do not have to vote, then
you do not have that incentive and you may loose some momentum.

		*	Option f:   The experienced NCA rep assumes the
non-voting Coundil seat and one of the above options is used to assign
the two House seats

		There is value in active participation without voting,
so this option could be valid.

		*	

			Option g: (Combination of option a and d) The
two Houses collaborate and decide among them where the NCAs will be
assigned, with a refusal option by any of the NCAs.

		Regards to all.
		Olga

		2009/9/10 Gomes, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com>

			Several have expressed views on this.  It would
be helpful if we could have more list discussion about the various
options and any others anyone proposes in the next week.  Our plan is to
make a decision on this along with the plan for seating Councilors in
Seoul on 24 September.  Please get input from the groups you represent.

			Thanks, Chuck

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				From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Olga Cavalli
				Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:48 PM
				To: GNSO Council
				Subject: [council] NCAs in the new GNSO
Council structure

				Hi,
				as discussed yesterday in the conference
call, and to start the discussion in our list, I am including possible
options for assigning the role of the three NCAs in the new structure of
the GNSO Council:

				Option a:  The NCAs talk it through and
figure out which roles seem right to them.

				Option b:  Random selection.

				Option c:  The council members decide
with random selection of which House chooses first.

				Option d:  The two Houses collaborate
and decide among them where the NCAs will be assigned.

				Option e:  The new, inexperienced NCA
rep assumes the non-voting Council seat and one of the above options is
used to assign the two House seats.

				Option f:   The experienced NCA rep
assumes the non-voting Coundil seat and one of the above options is used
to assign the two House seats

				Option g: (Combination of option a and
d) The two Houses collaborate and decide among them where the NCAs will
be assigned, with a refusal option by any of the NCAs.

				Please iclude other options thay you may
think of and share your comments about this in the list. 

				We should decide about this in our next
GNSO conference call on 24 September.

				Best regards
				Olga

		-- 
		Olga Cavalli, Dr. Ing.
		www.south-ssig.com.ar

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