AW: [council] Motion for JAS WG charter extension

KnobenW at KnobenW at
Thu Dec 2 16:08:49 UTC 2010

it doesn't make me happy since it may generate duplicated efforts
regarding the same topic which is not very effective.
Let's talk about this in Cartagena.
Best regards 


Von: Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Dezember 2010 15:21
An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich
Cc: council at
Betreff: Re: [council] Motion for JAS WG charter extension


we may offer other rewording that respond to Wolf-Ulrich remarks:

"c) Establishing a framework for consideration by the chartering
organizations and the community at large that deals with methods where
by any moneys raised for the purposes of support of new gTLD applicants.
This framework could include  a possible recommendation for a separate
ICANN originated foundation.  As the recommendations made by the Support
for New gTLD Applicants  also include a proposed use for surplus auction
income, beyond costs. for future rounds and ongoing assistance, this
framework could include a proposal for disposition of these fund,
realizing however, the the use of surplus auction funds is a wider
community topic and may include other proposals for the use of such

what do you think?



2010/12/2 <KnobenW at>


I'd like to amend the "Motion for JAS WG charter extension" as follows:
Remove "Resolved 1. c) Establishing a framework (for consideration
etcetera,) including a possible recommendation for a separate ICANN
originated foundation, for managing any auction income, beyond costs.
for future rounds and ongoing assistance;"
First, I'm convinced the community and ICANN have to be prepared how to
manage any potential new gTLD auction profit.
As usual in case profit is available one can expect many interested
community groups expressing their needs to share that profit where new
applicants are one group of it. In addition parts of the overall ICANN
program could also profit from that fund (e.g. outreach program, DNS
security etc.).
So my reservations to this topic being covered by the JAS group only
- it is a too large area for the JAS and would go far beyond their
originally intended scope
- there are lots of more urgent tasks for this WG as laid down in the
new draft charter. Handling the potential auction profit is of lower
priority on the timescale .
- as per definition the JAS view is applicant oriented that would cause
an imbalance
As I pointed out in former e-mails the JAS could express the new
applicants' general interest in taking part in the distribution of the
potential auction profit.

I suggest to initiate discussion on council level how to cover this
topic separately and appropriately.
I'm in agreement with all other items in the charter and would be happy
if the amendment could be accepted as friendly .

Save travels to Cartagena


Von: Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Dezember 2010 20:58
An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich
Betreff: regarding your amendment

Hi Wolf-Ulrich, 

regarding your comment last time about JAS motion, I would like to know
what are the reasons for asking to remove the 1.c . I think that we
should find a better and constructive compromise.what do you think?



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