[council] FW: Joint Working Group to consider concept of DNS CERT

Fri Jun 11 20:32:50 UTC 2010

Liz,

Do you really think that ICANN's involvement in a DNS-CERT does not have any policy development implications?  I would agree with you that it is not a typical GNSO policy development issue but it heavily impacts GNSO stakeholders.

Chuck

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liz Gasster [mailto:liz.gasster at icann.org]
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 4:22 PM
> To: Gomes, Chuck; Tim Ruiz; GNSO Council
> Subject: RE: [council] FW: Joint Working Group to consider concept of
> DNS CERT
> 
> Tim, Chuck and all,
> 
> If I may comment from a staff perspective, I agree that the
> "prioritization" may not be an issue at the drafting team stage
> assuming that volunteers prepare the charter, but I also agree with Tim
> that prioritization would be needed in order to assure adequate GNSO
> staff support for a new WG, given the current workload.
> 
> Also, I know this is an important issue for the community, and staff
> would of course support this group as requested by the SO/ACs to
> facilitate community consultation as needed, but I would note that the
> topic does not seem to be a policy development matter, which may be
> relevant when the Council considers other GNSO "prioritization"
> projects that are policy-related.
> 
> Thanks, Liz
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-
> council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:55 AM
> To: Tim Ruiz; GNSO Council
> Subject: RE: [council] FW: Joint Working Group to consider concept of
> DNS CERT
> 
> 
> As you know Tim, the request from the ccNSO came this week, so this
> effort is not included in the prioritization exercise.  Going forward
> we will need to decide whether we include DTs in this. For now, as long
> as there are volunteers to work on this, it may be okay, and we seem to
> have a lot of volunteers.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-
> > council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
> > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:45 PM
> > To: GNSO Council
> > Subject: RE: [council] FW: Joint Working Group to consider concept of
> > DNS CERT
> >
> >
> > How does this fit into our prioritization efforts? It's not on the
> > current list of 15 projects. I would think that the RrSG would be
> > interested in this effort, but I also think we need to figure out how
> > it
> > fits overall on the priority list. Of course, something we (RrSG)
> noted
> > when completed our ratings was that three or four of the listed
> > projects
> > are very near end.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: RE: [council] FW: Joint Working Group to consider concept of
> > DNS CERT
> > From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com>
> > Date: Fri, June 11, 2010 10:05 am
> > To: <KnobenW at telekom.de>, <council at gnso.icann.org>
> >
> > I made similar points to Chris Wolf.  He understands that a charter
> > cannot be completed before Brussels but would just like to see the
> work
> > getting started on the charter. I totally support your suggestion,
> > i.e.,
> > “The intention and the status could be announced by Chris and
> yourself
> > in Brussels and the chartering team could start drafting immediately
> > afterwards.”, and believe he is comfortable with that as well.
> >
> > But I would like to identify all charter DT volunteers by then if not
> > before if possible.
> >
> > Thanks for the good comments.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > From: KnobenW at telekom.de [mailto:KnobenW at telekom.de]
> > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:50 AM
> > To: Gomes, Chuck; council at gnso.icann.org
> > Subject: AW: [council] FW: Joint Working Group to consider concept of
> > DNS CERT
> >
> >
> >
> > I understand Chris' request but would like to ask if the time
> pressure
> > is that much that immediate action (before Brussels) is needed.
> > We're really busy to cover all the more urgent items (e.g. New gTLDs,
> > VI, PDP...) until that event.
> >
> > To avoid misunderstanding: there's great interest on CSG side to
> > actively participate in a (pre-)WG offering technical, operational
> and
> > managerial expertise, as well for chartering. But I don't see
> capacity
> > available to be provided for immediate action.
> >
> >
> > The intention and the status could be announced by Chris and yourself
> > in
> > Brussels and the chartering team could start drafting immediately
> > afterwards.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Wolf-Ulrich
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Von: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-
> council at gnso.icann.org]
> > Im Auftrag von Gomes, Chuck
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Juni 2010 03:41
> > An: council at gnso.icann.org
> > Betreff: [council] FW: Joint Working Group to consider concept of DNS
> > CERT
> > Wichtigkeit: Hoch
> > I forwarded the following message to the Council the yesterday and
> > added
> > the topic to our agenda for our meeting under Other Business.
> > Unfortunately, as we ran out of time, I failed to cover it.  My
> intent
> > was to simply ask if anyone objected to considering the formation of
> a
> > WG as described by Chris and if not, to request volunteers to start
> > working on a possible charter with volunteers from the ccNSO.  So I
> > will
> > ask those questions now:
> >
> > 1.       Does anyone object to considering the formation of such a
> WG?
> > Note that we would not make an official decision to support such a WG
> > until after we see a draft charter.  If anyone objects, please
> > communicate your objection not later than next Wednesday, 16 June.
> > 2.       Assuming there is no opposition, who would like to volunteer
> > for the charter drafting team?  Note that this is not a request for
> > volunteers for what might eventually be a WG, but only for a charter
> > DT.
> > Regarding question 2, there have already been some volunteers in
> > response to my message yesterday:
> >
> > ·         Terry Davis (NCA)
> > ·         Rafik Damik (NCSG)
> > ·         Greg Aaron (RySG, Afilias)
> > ·         Kathy Kleiman (RySG, PIR)
> > ·         Keith Drazek (RySG, VeriSign).
> > If anyone else wants to volunteer, please communicate your interest
> on
> > this list not later than next Wednesday, 16 June.  We will then
> > communicate the names and contact information to the ccNSO.
> >
> > Thanks, Chuck
> >
> > From: Chris Disspain [mailto:ceo at auda.org.au]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:54 PM
> > To: Gomes, Chuck
> > Cc: 'Cheryl Langdon-Orr'
> > Subject: Joint Working Group to consider concept of DNS CERT
> >
> >
> >
> > Chuck,
> >
> > In our conversation last week we discussed the possibility of the
> gNSO
> > and ccNSO (along with other relevant ACs and independent experts)
> > setting up the working group contemplated in the joint Chair’s letter
> > to ICANN of 25 March 2010 as soon as possible.
> >
> > I put this proposal to the ccNSO council on our call of 8 June and
> > confirm that the council has agreed that in the event of the proposal
> > also being agreed by the gNSO council, a small joint drafting team
> > should work before Brussels to draft the charter for the
> establishment
> > of a Working Group comprising representatives of ICANN’s Security and
> > Stability Advisory Committee, Root Server System Advisory Committee,
> > GAC, ALAC, CERT operators and ccTLD and gTLD managers to draw upon
> > their
> > collective expertise and to solicit their input on:
> > ·         the broad concept of a DNS-CERT;
> > ·         the current work being undertaken to mitigate DNS-related
> > threats;
> > ·         the actual level, frequency and severity of these threats;
> > ·         the gaps (if any) in the current security response to DNS
> > issues;
> > ·         whether or not a DNS-CERT is a proposal they support; and
> > ·         if so, the logistics of the proposal.
> > The goal would be to have the charter approved by the ccNSO and gNSO
> in
> > Brussels if possible so that we can announce the formation of the
> > working group. I’m guessing that formally the working group will need
> > to be a joint gNSO ccNSO group (as the 2 relevant supporting
> > organisations that can actually make policy) with the charter
> mandating
> > the involvement of the relevant ACs and outside experts.
> >
> > In the event that the gNSO council does approve the proposal then the
> > action items will be a) to call for some volunteers to do the
> drafting
> > along with Bart Boswinkel as ccNSO staff and an equivalent gNSO
> person
> > and b) to approach the other ACs to inform them that this is
> occurring.
> >
> > I understand your council meets on 10 June 2010 and look forward to
> > hearing from you regarding your discussions.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > Chris Disspain | Chief Executive Officer
> > .au Domain Administration Ltd
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