[council] Re: Suggested election time lines

Mary.Wong at law.unh.edu Mary.Wong at law.unh.edu
Thu Jul 14 23:11:51 UTC 2011

Hello - I can try to explain some of the issues. NCSG intends fully to
comply with and meet all the mandated deadlines; however, the Council
should know that we are probably laboring under greater pressure than
most of the other groups. This is because the new NCSG Charter was just
approved by the Board in Singapore, and we've also had a large number of
new members (both directly into the SG and through the newly-approved
Not for Profit Operational Concerns (NPOC) Constituency). We will also
have to elect (or re-elect, as may happen) 4 Councilors, including
transitioning from having 3 Board appointed Councilors to all Councilors
being elected by the SG (i.e. under the approved Charter, elections for
Council seats are SG-wide, not via Constituencies), which can happen
only procedurally after the new Charter is formally approved and
accepted by the SG membership. 

Mind you, I'm not making an early excuse for delay - like I said, we
(especially our SG Chair and Executive Committee) are working hard to
make sure not only that all relevant time lines are met, but that the
elections are sufficiently well-publicized so that we will have good
candidates coming forward (from various geographical regions, as
mandated by our Charter) and that all SG members (especially the newer
ones) know about the elections and can participate fully. 

Hopefully this explains some of the concerns that have been raised and
gives the Council a sense of what we are having to do within NCSG. 


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Adrian Kinderis <adrian at ausregistry.com.au> 

Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder at indom.com>, "Neuman, Jeff"
<Jeff.Neuman at neustar.us> 

Wendy Seltzer <wendy at seltzer.com>, Council GNSO
<council at gnso.icann.org> 

7/14/2011 5:59 PM 

RE: [council] Re: Suggested election time lines 

I agree with Jeff and SVG.

How typical of our GNSO/ ICANN psyche that we instantly look to move a
deadline rather than address the issue of tardiness...

Adrian Kinderis

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[mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
Sent: Friday, 15 July 2011 7:42 AM
To: Neuman, Jeff
Cc: Wendy Seltzer; Council GNSO
Subject: Re: [council] Re: Suggested election time lines

Agree with Jeff that extending is not an option. If SGs find they
cannot elect their new reps in time for Dakar, then they should look to
extend the terms of their own Councillors so as not to impact the
bylaw-mandated leadership election timeline.



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Le 14 juil. 2011 à 21:09, "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman at neustar.us> a
écrit :

> The election timelines are set forth in the Bylaws.  Given that we
still have 3 months until the annual meeting, shouldn't that be enough
time to get everything done?
> Jeffrey J. Neuman
> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
> Please note new address:  21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling VA 20166   

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 3:05 PM
> To: Stéphane Van Gelder
> Cc: Council GNSO
> Subject: Re: [council] Re: Suggested election time lines
> NCSG is also working on its Council elections.
> A third option would be to postpone our Council elections (and
> extend the terms of current officers) if some SGs need a slightly
> window to complete their Councillor elections first.
> --Wendy
> On 07/14/2011 07:52 AM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
>> Thanks Wendy for your comments.
>> Yes that is correct, we designed option 1 to address the points made
at the previous election and allow for the new Council to elect its
>> However, I think it's worth stressing that for this option to be
viable, we need to be sure that all SGs that are due to replace
Councillors will have done so in plenty of time for this vote to take
>> So my message was also a request to you, as representatives of your
groups, to let the Council leadership and secretariat know if your own
individual elections would be done in time?
>> Thanks,
>> Stéphane
>> Le 13 juil. 2011 à 18:34, Wendy Seltzer a écrit :
>>> Thanks for getting the conversation started Stéphane,
>>> Does the second, electronic, option assume that the voters would be
>>> old Councillors, since the new ones will not be seated until the
end of
>>> the AGM?  If so, I would strongly support option 1, to give the
>>> Councillors who will be serving under the chair an opportunity to
>>> in the Chair's election.
>>> --Wendy
>>> On 07/13/2011 12:17 PM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
>>>> Councillors,
>>>> As a follow-up to this, please see attached a slightly modified
note. The change is just to clarify one of the election procedure
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Stéphane
>>>> Le 11 juil. 2011 à 17:18, Stéphane Van Gelder a écrit :
>>>>> Councillors,
>>>>> A t
>>>>> As the Dakar meeting looms, one of the items we must cover is the
elections of the next Council Chair (the VCs are house-specific and
therefore do not need to be determined here).
>>>>> You will remember that last year's elections gave rise to some
debate, and that the Council felt it would be useful to plan ahead a
little more for this year.
>>>>> To start this process along, I have been working with Glen to
produce two possible scenarios for running the elections. These are
attached. My thanks to Glen for her hard work on this.
>>>>> As you will see from the attached, the options we have looked at
are to try and address the wish that was expressed by some last year
that it be the new Council that elect the Chair. There are some
scheduling issues to address, and if the Council decides to elect its
new Chair in Dakar, then we will have to work closely with those SGs
electing new Councillors to ensure that those elections are done in
plenty of time to allow for the Chair election to happen.
>>>>> We also ask the question, if we have an election in Dakar (rather
than the 2nd option of an electronic ballot beforehand) of whether the
vote should be by open or secret ballot.
>>>>> Please let us have your comments on these proposals.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Stéphane
>>>>> <GNSO Council Election Procedures for the GNSO Council Chair to
be seated in Dakar in October 2011.doc>

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