AW: AW: GNSO COUNCIL CONCERNS (Was - RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore)

KnobenW at KnobenW at
Mon May 23 17:44:17 UTC 2011

That's what I was taking into consideration. Almost nothing fits 100% to this council.

Kind regards


	Von: Olga Cavalli [mailto:olgacavalli at] 
	Gesendet: Montag, 23. Mai 2011 18:51
	An: Stéphane Van Gelder
	Cc: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; Jeff.Neuman at; carlosaguirre62 at; william.drake at; kstouray at; council at
	Betreff: Re: AW: GNSO COUNCIL CONCERNS (Was - RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore)
	Wolf your suggestion is valid but not for noncom appointees to the GNSO Council, we are not members of constituencies or SG.
	2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder at>

		Thanks for a very balanced suggestion Wolf. It may not suit everyone, but I think it does provide a workable solution for all GNSO groups. 


		Le 23 mai 2011 à 17:10, <KnobenW at> a écrit :

			As a council member I support this view.
			From my business and my personal perspective I'm also very much interested in the Summit on Developing Countries in particular with regards to the internet and ICT development aspects.
			To ensure council work as planned, I therefore like to suggest that the SG's/Constituencies - in case they like to attend the summit preparation - send Non-Council-members to this event.
			Kind regards


				Von: owner-council at [mailto:owner-council at] Im Auftrag von Neuman, Jeff
				Gesendet: Montag, 23. Mai 2011 16:36
				An: carlos dionisio aguirre; olgacavalli at; william.drake at
				Cc: Katim Touray; stephane.vangelder at; council at
				Betreff: GNSO COUNCIL CONCERNS (Was - RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore)
				I find it a little concerning that meetings are being scheduled during the Council sessions.  Years back we deliberately created the weekend sessions to avoid conflict with other meetings.  Now, with the new gTLDs, GAC meetings and this new session, we have more conflicts than prior to having the weekend sessions.
				I believe all council meetings should be mandatory for all councilors.  We are supposed to be the policy arm of ICANN leading the bottom-up policy development process.  But we cannot do our job without everyone being present even if it means having to forgo other meetings that may be of more interest to us.  The weekend sessions are vital to ensuring good discussion and debate on the substance so that we can bring those back to our constituencies and stakeholder groups.
				I truly appreciate the efforts of Katim, the ICANN Board, the GAC and others to have this workshop focusing on Developing Countries and this is in no way a statement about that session, but am now very concerned at the facts that:
				1.        We are starting the meeting at noon on Saturday to accommodate Councilors that arrive late
				2.       We may not be meeting on Sunday afternoon given the recent announcement of the not-yet-scheduled Sunday afternoon with the Board-GAC; and
				3.       This new session on Sunday morning.
				So what time does that leave the Council on the weekend to get everything accomplished?  There will be final reports of the PDP-WT, PEDNR, IRTP-B, a preliminary issues report for the UDRP, a discussion paper on abusive domain name practices, and whatever motions come our way.   
				So, what are the next steps?
				Best regards,

				Jeffrey J. Neuman 
				Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
				Please note new address:  21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling VA 20166    



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				From: owner-council at [mailto:owner-council at] On Behalf Of carlos dionisio aguirre
				Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 10:14 AM
				To: olgacavalli at; william.drake at
				Cc: Katim Touray; stephane.vangelder at; council at
				Subject: RE: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore

				Katim and All, I`m very interested too. please take me in account.

				Carlos Dionisio Aguirre

				NCA GNSO Council - ICANN 
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				Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:50:01 -0300
				Subject: Re: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore
				From: olgacavalli at
				To: william.drake at
				CC: kstouray at; stephane.vangelder at; council at
				Hi Katim,
				I am also interested in participating in this meeting.
				Best regards

				2011/5/23 William Drake <william.drake at>
				Hello Katim
				As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in Stéphane's reflected glory.  
				Stéphane, what's our selection process?
				On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote:


					I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star attraction and crowd puller you are!  Leave the worry about getting people to show up to us.
					A bientot!

					2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder at>
					What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;)
					Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and keep me company as well ;)
					Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit :


					Hi Stéphane,
					Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict.  ICANN meetings are always like that because there's some much going on.  However, it would be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend.
					Have a great week, and best wishes!

					2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder at>
					Thanks Katim.
					I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is aware of this meeting.
					I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very interesting meeting...
					Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit :

					Dear all,
					I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed ICANN Summit on Developing Countries.
					A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on Developing Countries.  The attached file is the original proposal for the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, their role in ICANN, and the way forward.
					In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there.  The Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following topics:

					1.	A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries) 
					2.	ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, and businesses in developing countries, etc) 
					3.	Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, Opportunities, and the Way Forward 

					The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members and staff.  The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist of the following:

					1.	What the proposed Summit will discuss? 
					2.	Who will be on the panel of presenters? 
					3.	The format for the Summit 
					4.	(S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC) 

					Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows:
					Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011
					Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes)
					Location: Raffles Ballroom
					Service: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish
					Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the meeting, and who they are.
					Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate to let me know if you need any additional information from me.
					<ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>




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