[council] Letter from the GAC regarding IOC/RC Protections

Mason Cole mcole at 5x5com.com
Fri Nov 30 18:51:40 UTC 2012


I admit to confusion about this as well.  With all due respect to the GAC, the IOC/RC issue has been confusing from the start.  Roughly:

Costa Rica: IOC/RC WG briefs GAC on draft protection, GAC concurs, asks board to act fast on GNSO recs once done.  I'm not aware that there was objection to a PDP recommendation then.

May 2011:  GAC tells board it's looking for "tightly drawn" IOC/RC protection and its aware of no other non-profit that rises to the same level of international protection.

Sept 2011:  GAC "advises" GNSO on which IOC/RC names to protect, characterizes this as implementation.

March 2012: GNSO approves top-level IOC/RC protection

April 2012:  Board votes down GNSO recommendation (rationale comes later)

April 2012:  GAC tells board it has considered request for advice on IGO protection; they advise no protections for IGOs for current round beyond what's in the guidebook

Prague:  GAC says it's considering IGO protection and will provide advice in July

Sept 2012: Board asks GNSO to finish IOC/RC and IGO work by Jan 31 2013

Toronto:  GAC says IGOs must be protected at top and second levels

November 2012: New TLD committee advises GNSO the board has voted to preemptively protect second level IOC/RC and IGO names, pending outcome of GNSO work


The takeaway for me is the changing nature of the GAC's communication.  I recognize they believe that a) all this is "implementation" and the lack of need for PDPs has been clear from the start, and  b) they've been clear about IGO protection.  I believe they do believe that and to be clear I'm not accusing anyone of dishonesty at all -- I think from the council's point of view it has not been as clear.  If I've missed something (entirely possible) I'm certainly open to correction.

What does seem clear is the GAC's expectation that it can and should advise the GNSO and have that advice generally followed.  To John's point, it's correct that in writing they are a board advisory group.  However, I'm sure we need a better model for interacting with the GAC to avoid things like the confusion above, and to set better methods for productive interaction.  I would be happy to be part of the council's effort to make that happen.






On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:46 AM, Maria Farrell wrote:

> John raises some important points in relation to the GAC's role vis a vis the Council. I agree that this letter highlights the need for the GAC to appoint a liaison. 
> 
> The GAC, which of course advises the Board, has asked us for the 'rationale' for a Council decision. I would like to be helpful, but aside from directing them to the relevant motion and its attached 'whereas' sequence, what else is there? 
> 
> As to the GAC's opinion that this relates to merely an implementation issue, we have all seen in the last few weeks that 'implementation issues' can be policy issues, depending on the strength of one's point of view and wish to see that prevail. 
> 
> As a practical matter regarding the rationale of the group of two dozen people who voted, I don't see what we can provide, other than a link to the motion(s) in question. Am I missing something?
> 
> Maria
> 
> On 29 November 2012 15:17, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:
> I also agree with Jeff that defining the two terms aside from the issues would be necessary. I would however like to add that  "implementation" of existing policy may by the way of the interpretation have such a significant impact on stakeholders that community consensus of the form of implementation may become necessary.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Volker
> 
> 
>> Jonathan,
>> 
>> First, this letter makes me more certain we should be emphatic about getting a GAC observer on the Council.
>> 
>> Second, I have heard Jeff Neuman's comment on clarifying what is policy and what is implementation and I agree.
>> 
>> Third, until the GNSO structure changes, the GAC advises the Board and if there are policy questions, the Board engages the Council.  Where is the Board on this direct advice to the Council?
>> 
>> Four, look forward to the next Council meeting!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Berard
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 4:59 AM, "Jonathan Robinson" <jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> FYI.  Please see the attached letter received from the GAC last night my time.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: GAC Secretariat [mailto:gacsec at gac.icann.org] 
>>> Sent: 28 November 2012 21:38
>>> To: jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com
>>> Cc: Steve Crocker; Fadi Chehade; Heather Dryden; Maria Häll; alice at apc.org; Choon Sai LIM (IDA)
>>> Subject: Letter from the GAC regarding IOC/RC Protections
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Sent on behalf of Heather Dryden, GAC Chair 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Dear Jonathan, 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Attached please find a letter from the GAC regarding IOC and Red Cross/Red Crescent protections. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Best regards, 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Jeannie Ellers 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Jeannie Ellers
>>> Manager, GAC Coordination
>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>>> 1101 New York Avenue NW, Suite 930
>>> 
>>> Washington, DC 20005
>>> Ph. +1 202 570 7135
>>> M. +1 310 302 7552
>>> 
>>> <GAC_GNSOCouncil_20121128.pdf>
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