[council] URS follow-up

john at crediblecontext.com john at crediblecontext.com
Thu Oct 25 20:20:03 UTC 2012


As I did at the wrap-up meeting, I must vote with Jeff on this.  If
prioritization is a priority (pun intended), this is still a make-work


John Berard
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [council] URS follow-up
From: "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman at neustar.us>
Date: Thu, October 25, 2012 1:11 pm
To: Thomas Rickert <rickert at anwaelte.de>, Jonathan Robinson
<jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com>
Cc: "'Petter Rindforth'" <petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu>, 
"council at gnso.icann.org" <council at gnso.icann.org>

I am not sure why we are giving this request any credibility.  Sorry for
my bluntness, but no one answered my questions during the GNSO session
or afterwards.  We seem to be conceding to ICANN that a team is
necessary to revise URS policy even before seeing any of the results of
the RFI which we now know there is at least one bidder that will propose
doing the URS in accordance with the current policies laid out in the
Guidebook for the price expected.
To concede now that policy work needs to be done is conceding that the
ICANN is in fact held hostage by the current vendors providing existing
UDRP services.  If we do indeed need to develop new policies around the
URS (which at this point in time, there is no evidence that this needs
to be done), I think we should address it then.  But aren’t we putting
the cart before the horse?
All of those caveats aside, if we are forced to set up a group, you can
count on my participation.

Jeffrey J. Neuman 
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs

From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org]
On Behalf Of Thomas Rickert
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 3:17 PM
To: Jonathan Robinson
Cc: 'Petter Rindforth'; council at gnso.icann.org
Subject: Re: [council] URS follow-up

I would like to  join this, too!



Am 22.10.2012 um 22:35 schrieb Jonathan Robinson
<jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com>:

Many thanks Peter. 


Good to have you on board for this and other items.


Best wishes,





From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org]
On Behalf Of Petter Rindforth
Sent: 22 October 2012 00:38
To: council at gnso.icann.org; Jonathan Robinson
Subject: Re: [council] FW: URS follow-up


Dear Jonathan and All new Colleagues,


Just to express my interest in participate in the further work with URS
(as it seems we now have to).


I have experience as an .xxx Arbitrator and also created the Swedish ADR
Accelerated Proceeding, so I hope I can therewith add some ideas  - and
questions  - in order to have a fast as possible final solution
regarding the URS.





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Please be aware of the following note from Olof Nordling when we next
consider the URS and associated issues.




From: Olof Nordling [mailto:olof.nordling at icann.org] 
Sent: 21 October 2012 15:33
To: jonathan.robinson at iprota.com
Cc: Kurt Pritz
Subject: URS follow-up


Dear Jonathan,

Congratulations to your recent election as GNSO Council Chair and many
thanks to you and to all Council members for the constructive
discussions we had on URS matters on 18 October! The willingness to
consider a drafting team to address URS implementation questions and
issues is much appreciated.


The subsequent URS session the same day in Toronto proved most
interesting. In addition to presentations from NAF and WIPO as 
potential URS providers, we had the advantage of a very late addition to
the agenda – a presentation from a “new entrant”, Intersponsive,
intending to respond to the RFI with a proposal within the target fee,
although with some adjustments of the URS provisions. Also NAF clarified
that they would be able to stay within the target fee, provided
reasonable limitations could be established to the current translation
requirements and to the number of domain names covered by a single


I realize that you and other Council members couldn’t attend this
session, as it partially overlapped with the GNSO Council session, but
the recording is available at
Furthermore, there are a number of relevant documents posted on our
recently established URS web page at
http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/urs, notably contributions from
NAF, WIPO and CAC, with considerations, proposals, some costing aspects
and, most importantly, questions needing to be resolved (the NAF
contribution is of particular interest in that regard).


I believe these recent developments further clarifies the need for a
drafting team to establish realistic implementation measures based on
the URS text. I look forward to further contacts with you and the
Council on this matter in the near future.


Very best regards



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