[council] Agenda for GNSO Council Meetings in Beijing / Council-Board

Tue Mar 26 22:06:20 UTC 2013

Thanks Joy,
Any comments on the nature or substance of the topics, feel free to
contribute. 
Which I know you will.

I'll update the Council on progress with our proposed meeting with the GAC
tomorrow.

Jonathan

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From: joy [mailto:joy at apc.org] 
Sent: 26 March 2013 22:01
To: Jonathan Robinson
Cc: 'Wendy Seltzer'; 'Neuman, Jeff'; council at gnso.icann.org
Subject: Re: [council] Agenda for GNSO Council Meetings in Beijing /
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Hi Jonathan - I think that is a sensible approach and has more of a
constructive dialogue flavour, which I think has been lacking.
Thanks for your work
Joy

On 27/03/2013 10:17 a.m., Jonathan Robinson wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> My suggested process is as follows:
> 
> 1. Create an agreed list of topics (which may need to be pared
> back) 2. Seek volunteers to introduce and open the topic in the 
> discussion in Beijing
> 
> In order to prepare, I met with Steve Crocker late last week and 
> talked with him about how we might best interact. I shared with him my 
> sense that our interactions have not always been productive and that 
> we have, at least at times in in some prior interactions, talked past 
> one another. As a consequence, we agreed to experiment with a new 
> approach as follows:
> 
> We (the GNSO Council) define topics we wish to discuss with the board.  
> Say 3-5 topics.  The board will leave that to us. We pull together a 
> sub-group of Councillors who can introduce these topics effectively 
> and, prior to meeting with the board, discuss them with GNSO board 
> members Bruce Tonkin and Bill Graham. The purpose of working with Bill 
> & Graham is to develop and frame the topics in a way which will be 
> most constructive in our interaction with the board.
> 
> So far, we have some topics on the list as follows:
> 
> 1. Multi-stakeholder model & processes and recent activities that 
> challenge the model. 2. The concept of Public Interest within the 
> ICANN model 3. ICANN engagement & outreach 4. New constituencies
> 
> I urge you to come forward and support these, suggest that they are 
> modified or removed and, potentially, offer to lead these.
> 
> I feel we are at a pivotal point in time for many reasons.  We have an 
> opportunity to take advantage of face-to-face interaction with the 
> Board and engage effectively.
> 
> I look forward to further input from you and then engaging Bill & 
> Bruce on this next week.  I hope I haven't left out previous 
> suggestions, please remind me if I have.
> 
> Thank-you,
> 
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org 
> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer
> Sent: 20 March 2013 14:58 To: Jonathan Robinson Cc: 'Neuman, Jeff'; 
> council at gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Agenda for GNSO Council 
> Meetings in Beijing / Council-Board
> 
> 
> Thanks Jonathan and Jeff,
> 
> For our meeting with the Board, NCSG agrees that multistakholder 
> engagement should be top of the agenda (we noted the issue as 
> Bottom-up multi-stakeholderism versus ICANN unilateralism).
> 
> In addition, we'd suggest consideration of Definition of the "public 
> interest" at ICANN; ICANN engagement & outreach plans; and possibly 
> New constituencies.
> 
> Best, -Wendy
> 
> On 03/19/2013 03:10 PM, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
>> Thanks Jeff.  I agree and think it may even be necessary to go back 
>> to first principles on the function and role of the GNSO Council 
>> within the GNSO and in the context of the overall multi-stakeholder 
>> model.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman at neustar.us] Sent: 19 March
>> 2013 19:01 To: Jonathan Robinson; council at gnso.icann.org Subject:
>> RE: [council] Agenda for GNSO Council Meetings in Beijing
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> With the Board, I think it is imperative that we talk about our views 
>> on the multi-stakeholder process and the recent measures we have seen 
>> that we believe erode away at that model.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org
>> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Robinson 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:48 PM To:
>> council at gnso.icann.org Subject: [council] Agenda for GNSO Council 
>> Meetings in Beijing
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We are on track with a team to work with peers in the ccNSO in order 
>> to develop the proposed topics for our meeting with the ccNSO.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As far as our prospective meeting with the GAC Is concerned, that is 
>> still work in progress, so for now that leaves meeting with the ICANN 
>> Board and the CEO.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Typically in the past, these meetings have consisted of our topics / 
>> their topics and my sense is that we have, at least at times, talked 
>> past one another.
>> 
>> However, it is clearly still very useful to have a view on key areas 
>> we like to see covered in our interaction with the CEO and the board 
>> and to do the preparatory work on these.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> With the above in mind, I'd welcome input that proposes topics for 
>> either or both of these interactions.
>> 
>> Once we settle on the topics (I have contacted both the board and the 
>> CEO in order to collaborate on these) we'll likely need volunteers to 
>> develop the topics and potentially lead the discussions.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Therefore, please can you propose one or more topics for either or 
>> both sessions (with CEO and Board) as soon as possible.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank-you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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