[council] NomCom appointee skill sets

Sat Dec 6 06:05:46 UTC 2014

Going back to the very start of discussion:
- I would like to add privacy and data protection law to the 'knowledge of an experience with' list. 
- perhaps we should consider adding 'experience with other Internet governance fora' to the general Variable Criteria list

and, while I don't have strong feelings about it, in the interests of not simply expanding the list without ever removing anything from it, does anyone feel a need to keep "Understanding of the special needs of financial services businesses" on the list of variable criteria?

David

On 6 Dec 2014, at 8:07 am, Reed, Daniel A <dan-reed at uiowa.edu> wrote:

> I think it looks quite good.  I took the liberty of tightening the grammar in a few places and adding a couple of small points for consideration.
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> Regards,
> Dan
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> Daniel A. Reed
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> University of Iowa
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> From: Jonathan Robinson [mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info] 
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:38 AM
> To: Reed, Daniel A; 'David Cake'; 'James M. Bladel'; council at gnso.icann.org
> Subject: RE: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
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> All,
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> Taking you back to this thread since I have received a follow-up request on this.
> The points made were interesting but we may have got a little side-tracked, at least in so far as producing a practical outcome for the Nom Com.
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> Therefore, I’d like to ask specifically if there is a willing volunteer to pick up the pen and undertake a revision of the existing document.
> The objective being to review and edit (if necessary) the existing document such that we can return it to the Nom Com.
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> In my opinion, the existing document (re-attached for reference) is reasonable and may even be satisfactory.
> So, anyone available to review and propose and relevant edits such that we can turn this around and return it to the Nom Com?
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> Thanks,
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> Jonathan
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> From: Reed, Daniel A [mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu] 
> Sent: 03 November 2014 03:13
> To: David Cake; James M. Bladel; council at gnso.icann.org
> Subject: RE: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
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> Law is far too restrictive.  Common sense and experience are far more important.
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> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of David Cake
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 8:09 PM
> To: James M. Bladel; council at gnso.icann.org
> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
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> If we were to use this language for additions to the Baseline criteria. I agree with James that would be appropriate. 
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> David
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> On 3 Nov 2014, at 9:07 am, James M. Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com> wrote:
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> Colleagues:
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> Apologies for jumping in to this thread so late.  But it occurs to me that by using the word "law" we are significantly (and, IMO, inappropriately) limiting the potential pool of NomCom appointees to lawyers.
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> Recommend that we replace each instance of "law" with broader terms, like "issues" or "concepts" or "topics."
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> Thank you,
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> J.
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> James Bladel
> GoDaddy
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> On Nov 3, 2014, at 9:15 AM, David Cake <dave at difference.com.au> wrote:
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> On 3 Nov 2014, at 7:00 am, Heather Forrest <Heather.Forrest at acu.edu.au> wrote:
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> Dear colleagues,
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> I read Brian’s suggested addition of IP law to the skillset as motivated by the specification of certain relevant areas of the law but not others. If we articulate the skill set at a higher level of abstraction (knowledge of and experience in relation to law relevant to the DNS), would that satisfy all concerns?
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> Not really. We would still be specifying a set of legal skills that we think would likely be useful to council deliberation, rather than a set of legal skills that we think would likely be useful to council deliberations AND that the council is unlikely to already have. 
> To reiterate - my issue with having intellectual property law on the list isn't because I think intellectual property law isn't important (it clearly is), my issue is that any given council almost certainly has at least two experts in IP law, and I've don't think in the time I've been in iCANN there have been less than three on council. 
> The more specific we are in our instructions to NomCom, the likely we are that NomCom will give us some of what we ask for.
> And NomCom does seem to pay attention to the list, though clearly reliant on who applies (for example, the prior list included both intergovernmental expertise and economics, and we got Carlos, an economist who has been in the GAC. Thanks, NomCom!). 
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> I'd have no particular objection to adding Brian's 'general comprehension of IP law' to the baseline criteria expected of all councillors - I presume all of us could explain what a trademark, copyright, and patent are if pressed, and most of us have significantly more knowledge than that - though it doesn't seem as important to me  as the other baseline criteria, such as basic knowledge of DNS systems and industry structure. But the variable criteria are to 'fill gaps in the skill set of the Council' (quoting directly), and I don't think intellectual property law is a notable gap.
> Regards
> David
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> Best wishes,
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> Heather
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> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Edward Morris
> Sent: Saturday, 1 November 2014 6:02 PM
> To: council at gnso.icann.org
> Subject: Re: [council] FW: NomCom appointee skill sets
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> Hello Susan.
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> - At the end of the day consumer protection, insuring that the domain name system is safe and secure, should be one of our highest priorities.
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> I agree with you that consumer protection is a justifiable and proper rationale for the creation and extension of intellectual monopoly rights and has been deemed so in Anglo-American jurisprudence, at least, since the Bakers Marking Law of 1266. We may on occasion disagree with the structure and scope of such rights but I'm delighted there seems to be some practical agreement on the purpose of the rights themselves.
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> -We could restructure the list 
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> International law which includes the following: 
>      Data protection
>      Privacy
>      Consumer rights
>      Human rights
>      Competition law
>      Intellectual property law
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> I think this is a fine and practical proposal that I support.
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> Thanks so much for your contribution.
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> Regards,
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> Ed
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> <NomCom - GNSO Candidate Criteria--DAR.docx>

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