[council] Second Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT 2) Final Report & Recommendations

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Fri Feb 21 17:14:07 UTC 2014


Mikey, in your second paragraph, you use the 
expression "well-supported". Do you mean 
supported as in "rah, rah, we want it", or 
"well-funded". If the latter, you should be more explicit.

Alan

At 21/02/2014 10:33 AM, Mike O'Connor wrote:
>hi again — this is a slightly newer new 
>version.  i decided to break up the paragraph a 
>little bit, that’s all.  here’s the way i did it
>
>The ATRT2 report documents how a very small 
>group of dedicated volunteers carry an 
>extraordinary proportion of the working-group 
>load and correctly identifies this as a major 
>concern.  We note that simply increasing the 
>pool of people aware of and in some way engaged 
>with ICANN should not be viewed as the 
>goal.  Ultimately what is needed is a larger and 
>more diverse group of active and effective 
>volunteer participants in PDP working groups.
>
>Although outreach is an important part of the 
>effort and crucial for bringing new volunteers 
>to ICANN, the path to this goal should not end 
>at simply recruiting a large diverse group of 
>people.  Rather, there needs to be a clear and 
>well-supported progression for community 
>volunteers to gain the skills, knowledge and 
>experience needed to broaden the ranks of active 
>PDP participants and leaders.
>
>We support reversing the current trend of too 
>little focus on the recruiting, development and 
>support of capable volunteer policymakers while 
>increasingly following the expedient path of 
>hiring expert panels, expanding staff and 
>hand-picking “community representatives” through opaque “selection committees.”
>
>
>
>
>On Feb 21, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Mike O'Connor 
><<mailto:mike at haven2.com>mike at haven2.com> wrote:
>
>>hi all,
>>
>>thanks for the comments.  here’s a new version.
>>
>>
>>The ATRT2 report documents how a very small 
>>group of dedicated volunteers carry an 
>>extraordinary proportion of the working-group 
>>load and correctly identifies this as a major 
>>concern.  We note that simply increasing the 
>>pool of people aware of and in some way engaged 
>>with ICANN should not be viewed as the 
>>goal.  Ultimately what is needed is a larger 
>>and more diverse group of active and effective 
>>volunteer participants in PDP working 
>>groups.  Although outreach is an important part 
>>of the effort and crucial for bringing new 
>>volunteers to ICANN, the path to this goal 
>>should not end at simply recruiting a large 
>>diverse group of people.  Rather, there needs 
>>to be a clear and well-supported progression 
>>for community volunteers to gain the skills, 
>>knowledge and experience needed to broaden the 
>>ranks of active PDP participants and 
>>leaders.  We support reversing the current 
>>trend of too little focus on the recruiting, 
>>development and support of capable volunteer 
>>policymakers while increasingly following the 
>>expedient path of hiring expert panels, 
>>expanding staff and hand-picking “community 
>>representatives” through opaque “selection committees.”
>>
>>
>>
>><ATRT2 - Draft Council Input (14 February 2014) MO2.doc>
>>
>>On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Thomas Rickert 
>><<mailto:rickert at anwaelte.de>rickert at anwaelte.de> wrote:
>>
>>>+1
>>>
>>>Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>Am 21.02.2014 um 15:48 schrieb "James M. 
>>>Bladel" <<mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>jbladel at godaddy.com>:
>>>
>>>>I also support Mikey’s edits, but to Klaus’ 
>>>>point, I’m wondering if we can insert 
>>>>something emphasizing that new participants 
>>>>be “volunteers”?    We do not want to 
>>>>encourage the trend of hiring outside 
>>>>experts, proliferating Staff, and hand-picked 
>>>>participants chosen by an opaque “selection committee.”
>>>>
>>>>J.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>From: Klaus Stoll <<mailto:kdrstoll at gmail.com>kdrstoll at gmail.com>
>>>>Date: Friday, February 21, 2014 at 8:02
>>>>To: "Reed, Daniel A" 
>>>><<mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>dan-reed at uiowa.edu 
>>>> >, Mike O'Connor 
>>>><<mailto:mike at haven2.com>mike at haven2.com>, 
>>>>GNSO Council List <<mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>council at gnso.icann.org>
>>>>Subject: Re: [council] Second Accountability 
>>>>and Transparency Review Team (ATRT 2) Final Report & Recommendations
>>>>
>>>>Fine with me as long as we don't start breading more "experts".
>>>>
>>>>Klaus
>>>>
>>>>On 2/21/2014 2:46 PM, Reed, Daniel A wrote:
>>>>>I think this is fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>From:<mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org>owner-council at gnso.icann.org 
>>>>>[<mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org>mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] 
>>>>>On Behalf Of Mike O'Connor
>>>>>Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 7:04 AM
>>>>>To: <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>council at gnso.icann.org
>>>>>Subject: Re: [council] Second Accountability 
>>>>>and Transparency Review Team (ATRT 2) Final Report & Recommendations
>>>>>
>>>>>hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>i agree Maria.  i had a go at adding another 
>>>>>paragraph to our response to Rec #10.3 and 
>>>>>have attached the revised draft.  but to 
>>>>>save you time, here’s the language i inserted
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"The ATRT2 report documents how a very small 
>>>>>group of dedicated volunteers carry an 
>>>>>extraordinary proportion of the 
>>>>>working-group load and correctly identifies 
>>>>>this as a major concern.  We note that 
>>>>>simply increasing the pool of people aware 
>>>>>of and in some way engaged with ICANN should 
>>>>>not be viewed as the goal.  Ultimately what 
>>>>>is needed is a larger and more diverse group 
>>>>>of active and effective participants in PDP 
>>>>>working groups.  Although outreach is an 
>>>>>important part of the effort and crucial for 
>>>>>bringing newcomers to ICANN, the path to 
>>>>>this goal should not end at simply 
>>>>>recruiting a large diverse group of 
>>>>>people.  Rather, there needs to be a clear 
>>>>>and well-supported progression for newcomers 
>>>>>to gain the skills, knowledge and experience 
>>>>>needed to broaden the ranks of active PDP participants and leaders.”
>>>>>
>>>>>happy to consider revisions.
>>>>>mikey
>>>>>
>>>>>On Feb 21, 2014, at 3:56 AM, Maria Farrell 
>>>>><<mailto:maria.farrell at gmail.com>maria.farrell at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>I'm happy to support this, and thank you for 
>>>>>drafting it. There's one small typo, track 
>>>>>changes version attached. It's in para 1, page 3.
>>>>>I'd have liked if we tackled head-on the 
>>>>>issue of the narrowness of some PDP WGs' 
>>>>>participation, which the ATRT2 report 
>>>>>provided some pretty convincing numbers on. 
>>>>>But as I haven't gone to the trouble of 
>>>>>actually drafting anything on it, I can't complain.
>>>>>All the best, Maria
>>>>>
>>>>>On 21 February 2014 09:15, Avri Doria 
>>>>><<mailto:avri at acm.org>avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>As a member of the ATRT2, I do not believe 
>>>>>it my job to comment on our report.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think the GNSO response is fine as far as 
>>>>>it goes and I am pleased that at least 
>>>>>something is being submitted - though I must 
>>>>>admit I am less than enthused about 
>>>>>responses that essentially say "we are already doing that".
>>>>>
>>>>>I might have wished for it to be more 
>>>>>supportive of other aspects of the report, but the response is what it is.
>>>>>
>>>>>avri
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 21-Feb-14 09:43, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
>>>>>*_PLEASE RESPOND WITHIN 8 HOURS_*
>>>>>
>>>>>*From:*Jonathan Robinson [mailto:jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com]
>>>>>*Sent:* 20 February 2014 09:38
>>>>>*To:* <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>council at gnso.icann.org
>>>>>*Subject:* RE: Second Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT
>>>>>
>>>>>2) Final Report & Recommendations
>>>>>
>>>>>All,
>>>>>
>>>>>The deadline for submission of public comment on the ends approximately
>>>>>36 hours from now.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am OK to submit a letter in substantially the same for as that
>>>>>distributed to you on 14 Feb (see below) and re-attached to this letter.
>>>>>
>>>>>BUT
>>>>>
>>>>>I need your support to do so.  Accordingly, even if you simply provide
>>>>>support without any comment on the content, that will be helpful.
>>>>>*_PLEASE RESPOND WITHIN 24 HOURS_*
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank-you.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jonathan
>>>>>
>>>>>*From:*Jonathan Robinson [mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info]
>>>>>*Sent:* 14 February 2014 17:21
>>>>>*To:* 
>>>>><mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>council at gnso.icann.org 
>>>>><mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>
>>>>>*Subject:* Second Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT 2)
>>>>>Final Report & Recommendations
>>>>>*Importance:* High
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>All,
>>>>>
>>>>>If you are not already, please be aware of the following:
>>>>>
>>>>><http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/atrt2-recommendations-09jan14-en.htm>http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/atrt2-recommendations-09jan14-en.htm
>>>>>The opportunity to provide comments _ends one week from today 23h59 UTC
>>>>>on 21 Feb 2014_.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The ATRT2 interacted with many in the community during the course of its
>>>>>work, including directly with the GNSO Council which was certainly
>>>>>appreciated.  We now have an opportunity to comment on the final report.
>>>>>
>>>>>If we do intend to comment, my opinion is that we should at least submit
>>>>>an indication of intent, if not the primary comment, in the initial
>>>>>comment period and not wait for the reply period.
>>>>>
>>>>>Given the tight time frame, I have taken the unusual step of drafting a
>>>>>council response for your consideration.  The ATRT2 deals with some
>>>>>critical areas of GNSO work and function and so it seems to me that we
>>>>>should respond to the call for comments, specifically in so far as the
>>>>>report deals with GNSO Policy and directly related areas.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am aware that some of you were on the ATRT2 and others actively worked
>>>>>on Council interaction with the ATRT2.  Therefore, you may well have
>>>>>strong views on the subject matter.
>>>>>
>>>>>I look forward to your input and any suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Jonathan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><ATRT2 - Draft Council Input (14 February 2014).doc>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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