[council] NomCom appointee skill sets
Jonathan Robinson
jrobinson at afilias.info
Thu May 7 09:44:23 UTC 2015
Thanks Marika for flagging this.
I think it will be useful to submit updated criteria to the Nom Com.
However, on reviewing this, I see that the:
"Knowledge of privacy and data protection laws and implications"
Was added to the baseline criteria.
Now, given that the baseline criteria are (by definition) a minimum set of
criteria that must be met by ALL candidates and can then be added to by the
optional "variable" criteria, I think this addition is in the incorrect
location. Would all of our current (Thomas, Dan & Carlos) very competent
Nom-Com appointees have met this test?
Knowledge of privacy and data protection laws and implications may well be
relevant and important but the other baseline criteria are general
(relevant) skills together with a basic knowledge of the DNS.
To me, this is a specialist area and to make a specialist areas such as
"Knowledge of privacy and data protection laws and implications" part of the
minimum acceptable criteria for candidates would be an error in my opinion.
Therefore, I suggest that we retain "Knowledge of privacy and data
protection laws and implications" but simply move it to the list below i.e.
Variable Criteria that are useful to the GNSO.
With that change, I think we are good to go.
Jonathan
-----Original Message-----
From: Amr Elsadr [mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org]
Sent: 06 May 2015 11:54
To: Marika Konings
Cc: Reed, Daniel A; jrobinson at afilias.info; David Cake;
council at gnso.icann.org
Subject: Re: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
Thanks Marika,
No objections on my part.
Amr
On May 6, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
wrote:
> All, we've just realised that the revised Nom Com GNSO Candidate Criteria
were not formally submitted back in December when the Council discussed
these (see revised version attached). To correct this, we would like to
propose to go ahead and submit these now as they may still help inform the
NomCom's deliberations. If you have any objections, please share those with
the list by Thursday 7 May at the latest.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marika
>
> From: <Reed>, Daniel A <dan-reed at uiowa.edu>
> Date: Monday 8 December 2014 20:30
> To: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson at afilias.info>, 'David Cake'
> <dave at difference.com.au>, "council at gnso.icann.org"
> <council at gnso.icann.org>
> Subject: RE: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
>
> Here are the changes. (David, please make sure I captured them
> appropriately.)
>
> From: Jonathan Robinson [mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info]
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 4:47 AM
> To: Reed, Daniel A; 'David Cake'; council at gnso.icann.org
> Subject: RE: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
>
> Thanks Dan,
>
> Please can you add them to your revised version and then, if there are no
other additions / modifications, we can use that as an updated guide for the
NomCom.
>
> Jonathan
>
> From: Reed, Daniel A [mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu]
> Sent: 06 December 2014 20:24
> To: David Cake; council at gnso.icann.org
> Subject: RE: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
>
> All of these seem reasonable to me.
>
> Dan
>
> From:owner-council at gnso.icann.org
> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of David Cake
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 12:06 AM
> To: council at gnso.icann.org
> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
>
> Going back to the very start of discussion:
> - I would like to add privacy and data protection law to the 'knowledge of
an experience with' list.
> - perhaps we should consider adding 'experience with other Internet
> governance fora' to the general Variable Criteria list
>
> and, while I don't have strong feelings about it, in the interests of not
simply expanding the list without ever removing anything from it, does
anyone feel a need to keep "Understanding of the special needs of financial
services businesses" on the list of variable criteria?
>
> David
>
>
> On 6 Dec 2014, at 8:07 am, Reed, Daniel A <dan-reed at uiowa.edu> wrote:
>
>
>> I think it looks quite good. I took the liberty of tightening the
grammar in a few places and adding a couple of small points for
consideration.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dan
>>
>> Daniel A. Reed
>> Vice President for Research and Economic Development Computational
>> Science and Bioinformatics Chair Professor of Computer Science,
>> Electrical and Computer Engineering, and Medicine University of Iowa
>> <image001.gif>
>> Skypeid: hpcdan
>> Email: dan-reed at uiowa.edu
>> Telephone: +1 319 335-2132
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Jonathan Robinson [mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info]
>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:38 AM
>> To: Reed, Daniel A; 'David Cake'; 'James M. Bladel';
>> council at gnso.icann.org
>> Subject: RE: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Taking you back to this thread since I have received a follow-up request
on this.
>> The points made were interesting but we may have got a little
side-tracked, at least in so far as producing a practical outcome for the
Nom Com.
>>
>> Therefore, I'd like to ask specifically if there is a willing volunteer
to pick up the pen and undertake a revision of the existing document.
>> The objective being to review and edit (if necessary) the existing
document such that we can return it to the Nom Com.
>>
>> In my opinion, the existing document (re-attached for reference) is
reasonable and may even be satisfactory.
>> So, anyone available to review and propose and relevant edits such that
we can turn this around and return it to the Nom Com?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> From: Reed, Daniel A [mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu]
>> Sent: 03 November 2014 03:13
>> To: David Cake; James M. Bladel; council at gnso.icann.org
>> Subject: RE: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
>>
>> Law is far too restrictive. Common sense and experience are far more
important.
>>
>> From:owner-council at gnso.icann.org
>> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of David Cake
>> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 8:09 PM
>> To: James M. Bladel; council at gnso.icann.org
>> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
>>
>> If we were to use this language for additions to the Baseline criteria. I
agree with James that would be appropriate.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On 3 Nov 2014, at 9:07 am, James M. Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Colleagues:
>>>
>>> Apologies for jumping in to this thread so late. But it occurs to me
that by using the word "law" we are significantly (and, IMO,
inappropriately) limiting the potential pool of NomCom appointees to
lawyers.
>>>
>>> Recommend that we replace each instance of "law" with broader terms,
like "issues" or "concepts" or "topics."
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> J.
>>> ____________
>>> James Bladel
>>> GoDaddy
>>>
>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 9:15 AM, David Cake <dave at difference.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3 Nov 2014, at 7:00 am, Heather Forrest <Heather.Forrest at acu.edu.au>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>>
>>>>> I read Brian's suggested addition of IP law to the skillset as
motivated by the specification of certain relevant areas of the law but not
others. If we articulate the skill set at a higher level of abstraction
(knowledge of and experience in relation to law relevant to the DNS), would
that satisfy all concerns?
>>>>
>>>> Not really. We would still be specifying a set of legal skills that we
think would likely be useful to council deliberation, rather than a set of
legal skills that we think would likely be useful to council deliberations
AND that the council is unlikely to already have.
>>>> To reiterate - my issue with having intellectual property law on the
list isn't because I think intellectual property law isn't important (it
clearly is), my issue is that any given council almost certainly has at
least two experts in IP law, and I've don't think in the time I've been in
iCANN there have been less than three on council.
>>>> The more specific we are in our instructions to NomCom, the likely we
are that NomCom will give us some of what we ask for.
>>>> And NomCom does seem to pay attention to the list, though clearly
reliant on who applies (for example, the prior list included both
intergovernmental expertise and economics, and we got Carlos, an economist
who has been in the GAC. Thanks, NomCom!).
>>>>
>>>> I'd have no particular objection to adding Brian's 'general
comprehension of IP law' to the baseline criteria expected of all
councillors - I presume all of us could explain what a trademark, copyright,
and patent are if pressed, and most of us have significantly more knowledge
than that - though it doesn't seem as important to me as the other baseline
criteria, such as basic knowledge of DNS systems and industry structure. But
the variable criteria are to 'fill gaps in the skill set of the Council'
(quoting directly), and I don't think intellectual property law is a notable
gap.
>>>> Regards
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Heather
>>>>>
>>>>> From:
>>>>> owner-council at gnso.icann.org[mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Edward Morris
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 1 November 2014 6:02 PM
>>>>> To: council at gnso.icann.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [council] FW: NomCom appointee skill sets
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Susan.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - At the end of the day consumer protection, insuring that the domain
name system is safe and secure, should be one of our highest priorities.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with you that consumer protection is a justifiable and proper
rationale for the creation and extension of intellectual monopoly rights and
has been deemed so in Anglo-American jurisprudence, at least, since the
Bakers Marking Law of 1266. We may on occasion disagree with the structure
and scope of such rights but I'm delighted there seems to be some practical
agreement on the purpose of the rights themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -We could restructure the list
>>>>>
>>>>> International law which includes the following:
>>>>> Data protection
>>>>> Privacy
>>>>> Consumer rights
>>>>> Human rights
>>>>> Competition law
>>>>> Intellectual property law
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think this is a fine and practical proposal that I support.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks so much for your contribution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>
>> <NomCom - GNSO Candidate Criteria--DAR.docx>
>
> <NomCom - GNSO Candidate Criteria--DARV2[1].docx>
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