[council] For your review - proposed transmittal letter GNSO Review WP Analysis

Amr Elsadr aelsadr at egyptig.org
Tue Apr 26 13:31:02 UTC 2016


Hi,

This all sounds pretty good to me. The objective here to me is to be sure that the OEC is made aware of all the feedback that has been provided. It doesn’t really matter to me how they get the information, as long as they do get it.

So if the OEC staff support is prepping a summary of the feedback, I believe that would do (along with our reference to the webinar). However, I would prefer to no rely solely on the recording/transcripts as a means of transmitting this info.

Also, one of the main reasons I felt that the Council should include all this feedback in its own communique to the OEC, is because the amendment to the motion the Council used to adopt the working party assessment was selective in incorporating feedback from the webinar. Granted, the only feedback taken into consideration by the amended motion was the only feedback that resulted in a change to one of the outputs of the working party. So again, my personal view is that it matters more to me that the OEC receives the necessary information. Less important how they receive it, and from whom.

Thanks.

Amr

> On Apr 26, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Amr for your response. My understanding is that the staff
> supporting the OEC will also be providing a summary of the feedback
> received during the webinar as one of the public inputs that has been
> received throughout this process so the question is whether you and other
> Council members are of the view that it would also be worth including
> these as part of the transmittal letter. Do note that the letter already
> refers to the webinar and includes a link to the recording - maybe that is
> sufficient as in that way, there is no need to confirm the comments that
> have been attributed to different people, as the OEC can review the
> recording instead (note, I have seen that the transcript is now also
> available so we could include that link as well)?
> 
> Looking forward to receiving your feedback,
> 
> Marika
> 
> On 26/04/16 05:19, "Amr Elsadr" <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Marika,
>> 
>> With the exception of the comments made regarding the revised
>> recommendation 23, I would say that the comments all address the
>> feasibility of implementation, one way or another. Maybe not so much
>> priority.
>> 
>> And to answer your questions, I only included the comments in the
>> spreadsheet for the benefit of fellow councillors. I just wanted to make
>> it easy for anyone reviewing these comments now to be able to cross-check
>> them against the appropriate Westlake recommendations and the associated
>> working party assessments. I still believe that if these are included,
>> that they should be an annex to the working party’s feedback. I have no
>> preference regarding this being done using this format, or any other.
>> Perhaps one that is a little tidier than what I’ve done. :)
>> 
>> And yes…, ideally, it would be good to confirm with each of the
>> commenters that they wish for their feedback during the webinar to be
>> included here, and that their comments have actually been captured
>> correctly. Several comments were made by fellow councillors, but there
>> are more from other GNSO community members. Towards the end of the
>> webinar, a comment was raised requesting that all this input be included
>> in whatever the GNSO Council considers during its deliberations, and
>> there seemed to be agreement during the webinar that this be done (or at
>> least, there were no objections). This is one of the reasons why I raised
>> the issue of missing comments during the discussion we had on the
>> amendment to the motion the Council used to adopt the working party
>> assessment. I will note though that at least one of the commenters had to
>> drop off the webinar before this came up, so double-checking with each of
>> them is not a bad idea at all.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Amr
>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2016, at 5:20 PM, Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Amr. Could you clarify how you would like to include this input
>>> as
>>> part of the annex to the letter? Or you envision that the whole excel
>>> document is included as an annex? Would you like me to list the # of the
>>> recommendation and underneath it the different comments? However, in any
>>> case, it probably does require those that have been associated with the
>>> comments confirm that they would like this input transmitted to the OEC
>>> as
>>> these were raised during the webinar and may not have necessarily been
>>> intended to be conveyed to the OEC at this stage (should the comments be
>>> limited to Council members as this is a Council letter?)? Also, as you
>>> and
>>> others review the proposed comments for inclusion, I would like to
>>> encourage you to make sure that these comments focus on feasibility and
>>> priority - implementation comments / concerns are for the next phase of
>>> the process.  
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Marika
>>> 
>>> On 22/04/16 14:22, "Amr Elsadr" <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Marika and all,
>>>> 
>>>> Gratitude for this. The letter seems pretty good to me.
>>>> 
>>>> For my part, I've done the best I could without delaying this issue too
>>>> much to accumulate the feedback received during the webinar, which was
>>>> held on April 12th. For easy reference, I¹ve added columns to the
>>>> spreadsheet containing the GNSO Review Working Party¹s assessment to
>>>> show
>>>> these along each of the relevant recommendations. I hope that I have
>>>> not
>>>> missed or misinterpreted any of the feedback provided. The feedback
>>>> accumulated concerns the independent examiner¹s recommendations 7, 21,
>>>> 23, 32, 35 and 36.
>>>> 
>>>> Also note that the attached assessment/prioritising of recommendations
>>>> does not show the change in color-coding for recommendation 21 from
>>>> ³Red²
>>>> to ³Yellow², along with the addition of a low priority. This change
>>>> was a
>>>> result of the feedback provided, as well as the ensuing amendment to
>>>> the
>>>> motion by which the Council adopted the Working Party¹s assessment.
>>>> 
>>>> I hope this is somehow helpful.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Amr
>>>> 
>> 





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