[council] Preliminary planning for ICANN58
Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G.
crg at isoc-cr.org
Tue Nov 29 20:08:03 UTC 2016
Thanks Donna!
The present PDD workload fully justifies a timeline of 2 policy meetings
per year for at least 2017 and 2018!
Let´s be creative to include efficient quality time during Policy
meetings for AoC reviews and CCWGs in the same 4 day framework (so far
those smaller meetings not being integral part of the “new
strategy”) and the payback in terms of volunteers time and ICANN´s
resources would be amazing!!!!
Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
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Skype: carlos.raulg
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On 29 Nov 2016, at 14:03, Austin, Donna wrote:
> I agree 100% -- let's have two policy meetings a year and one AGM with
> bells and whistles.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. [mailto:crg at isoc-cr.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 11:58 AM
> To: Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin at neustar.biz>
> Cc: James M. Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com>; Michele Neylon - Blacknight
> <michele at blacknight.com>; Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net>; GNSO
> Council List <council at gnso.icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [council] Preliminary planning for ICANN58
>
> Dear Donna,
>
> I´m aware of the background and the great design work based on past
> experience.
>
> But I just have to say that the new meeting meeting ‘strategy’
> was largely designed to pelase everybody and before we could measure
> the impact of the new empowered community CCWGs, overlapping AoC
> reviews, and 1000+ new gTLDs and GDD exclusive gatherings, which
> require an increasing number of small meetings along the year at great
> cost and expense.
>
> Having said that, I must confess that Helsinki was a great surprise in
> “policy-efficiency” and reduced non-sense I would like to emulate
> as far as possible. Looking forward, we should take the best of the
> new meetings format (and forget such ones as Hyderabad). Nobody said
> we can keep improving.
>
> Lets hope for an ICANN58 where we can work effectively.
>
> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
> +506 8837 7176
> Skype: carlos.raulg
> Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica)
> On 29 Nov 2016, at 12:32, Austin, Donna wrote:
>
>> Hi Carlos
>>
>> While your suggestion makes perfect sense the reality is that the
>> smaller meeting B, ie Policy Meetings, were designed to enable ICANN
>> to host meetings in locations predominately in the African and LAC
>> regions that can no longer host the larger ICANN meetings.
>>
>> Prior to the establishment of the Meeting Strategy Working Group
>> (MSWG), Nick Tomasso published a proposal suggesting that hub
>> locations be used, although Nick called them Consolidated Meeting
>> Locations, and adjusted the rotation through regions. Nick's proposal
>> was rejected and the MSWG was established.
>>
>> Nick's proposal is available at:
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_
>> system_files_files_meetings-2Dproposal-2D02oct12-2Den.pdf&d=DgIFaQ&c=M
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>>
>> The MSWG also discussed the idea of hubs as well but agreed to
>> continue regional rotation.
>>
>> Donna
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org
>> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Raúl
>> Gutiérrez G.
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 8:16 PM
>> To: James M. Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com>
>> Cc: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com>; Edward
>> Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net>; GNSO Council List
>> <council at gnso.icann.org>
>> Subject: Re: [council] Preliminary planning for ICANN58
>>
>>
>> Thank you James.
>> But here we are working on the 2nd derivative: ICANN hubs for Policy
>> (short) Meetings.
>> Don´t know if this was also discarded.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
>> +506 8837 7176
>> Skype: carlos.raulg
>> Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica) On 28 Nov 2016, at 20:34,
>> James
>> M. Bladel wrote:
>>
>>> Just a note that the Meeting Strategy Working Group examined the
>>> idea
>>> of “rotating hubs”, and rejected them. Mostly by folks from
>>> smaller
>>> and/or more distant locations who were concerned that ICANN would be
>>> permanently absent from their region.
>>>
>>> I don’t agree, but that was their finding.
>>>
>>> Thanks –
>>>
>>> J.
>>>
>>> On 11/28/16, 11:59 , "Michele Neylon - Blacknight"
>>> <michele at blacknight.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Carlos
>>>
>>> Ah ok, so the ICANN hubs.
>>> That makes a lot of sense from a cost and logistics perspective.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Michele
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>>> On 28/11/2016, 11:33, "Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G."
>>> <crg at isoc-cr.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> ICANN hubs: LA, Istambul and Singapore.
>>>
>>> I assume that those places are central located in terms of
>>> airlines
>>> logistics, already have a minimum of ICANN staff available,
>>> facilites,
>>> etc. and would greatly reduce the cost to set up meetings (A
>>> recent
>>> meeting of the CCT-RT in Washington DC had to fly in as many
>>> ICANN staff
>>> members as RT members, which calls for more reasonable
>>> places
>>> to meet,
>>> particularly for mainle “working” meetings like the
>>> Policy
>>> Format
>>> calls for).
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
>>> +506 8837 7176
>>> Skype: carlos.raulg
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>>> On 26 Nov 2016, at 10:14, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>>>
>>> > Carlos
>>> >
>>> > Which locations would you see as being “hubs”?
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> >
>>> > Michele
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
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