[council] Motion for JoBurg Meeting

Phil Corwin psc at vlaw-dc.com
Fri Jun 16 14:19:11 UTC 2017


Thanks Paul.

Look forward to initial discussion in Joburg.

Best, Philip

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Subject: RE: [council] Motion for JoBurg Meeting

Thanks Michele.  Thanks Phil.  That is why it was put forth as a motion to form a team to look at the issue (including knock- on effects), rather than a motion to make the change.  The vote in JoBurg will only be to begin looking at it, not to decide to do it.  Since the team can consist of GNSO members, not only GNSO Councilors, I don’t think this will have a material effect upon the Council’s work (other than one more action item to track and one more liaison to appoint).

Best,
Paul



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Subject: Re: [council] Motion for JoBurg Meeting

Phil

I’ve no idea about trademark infringements, but the knock- on effects of changing this could be massive.

Regards

Michele


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Subject: Re: [council] Motion for JoBurg Meeting

Are we risking a trademark infringement suit from .global?

How about gTLD standing for Great Top level Domains? It could make the DNS great again. ;-)


But seriously, while the “G” in gTLD standing for generic may need rethinking, if we are going to open this up maybe the G should be replaced by another letter or letters (NC for Non-Country, P for Private, E for Entrepreneurial, etc.)

I’m not opposed to starting a discussion of this in Johannesburg, but I’d think we need some substantial discussion on this before being ready to vote on a Motion. We certainly have the time to explore it as there is no pressing need to make a short-term decision.

Best to all, and safe travel to Joburg.

Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
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Subject: Re: [council] Motion for JoBurg Meeting


On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:19 AM, icannlists <icannlists at winston.com<mailto:icannlists at winston.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

Below is my motion for consideration when we are together in Johannesburg.  Safe travels.

Best,
Paul


WHEREAS, the domain names promulgated by ICANN are available globally and are not sponsored by any particular government (“Global Domains”);

Saying that only gTLDs are global may give a wrong impression on the scope of ccTLDs. There is also no requirement in RFC 1591 for a ccTLD to be sponsored by the local government, and indeed some ccTLD are not.



WHEREAS, the term “generic” has several meanings within various portions of the ICANN Community;

That may be so, but in IG(Internet Governance) that definition has quite a lot of consensus around it.


WHEREAS,  since the advent of .brand top level domain names, the use of the term “generic” in relationship to Global Domains has become increasingly confusing;

That advent brought some "non IG educated parties" to the table, and while I'm usually for using terminology that is better understood, changing terms that have bylaws impact should be with extreme care.

WHEREAS, the ICANN Organization has already adjusted its nomenclature and has named the division of the organization dealing with non-ccTLD domain names the “Global Domains Division”

That's not correct. GDD also deals with non-gTLD matters, like IANA/PTI. https://www.icann.org/management-organization-chart documents this, but that's a nuance that staff explained to meearly on when GDD was created and I asked if that was by design or mistake.



Rubens


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