[council] Community travel support consultation - draft of proposed response

[Tatiana Tropina]

Thanks, Michele,
I can certainly live with the path forward you suggested because we indeed
are working on the response to the questionnaire on the SG (and Cs) level
as well.
Thanks to all who commented! Looking forward to getting more comments if
there are any (not on the fellowship issue only, of course), and then
Michele, Ayden and I can adjust the document next week.
Cheers,
Tanya

On 18 November 2017 at 18:01, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <
michele at blacknight.com> wrote:

> All
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> As one of those who drafted the comments with Tatiana I am happy to stand
> over them, however I fully accept what Donna is saying.
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> So maybe the path forward is to do the following:
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> 1 – a submission from the GNSO Council taking into consideration Donna’s
> suggestions, without getting into the quagmire of some of the programs.
> This would keep within the scope of the GNSO Council’s views on this
> hopefully.
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> 2 – Those of us who feel strongly that comments should be submitted
> regarding certain aspects of the travel support program do so separately
> ie. not as a submission by Council, but as community members who wish to
> express their opinion.
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> Of course there is also the option of submissions via our respective
> stakeholder groups etc., though I’m not sure if that will really work for
> everyone.
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> Just a suggestion.
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> Regards
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> Michele
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> *From: *council <council-bounces at gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Tatiana
> Tropina <tatiana.tropina at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Saturday 18 November 2017 at 13:04
> *To: *Carlos Raul Gutierrez <crg at isoc-cr.org>
> *Cc: *GNSO Council List <council at gnso.icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [council] Community travel support consultation - draft of
> proposed response
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> Hi Carlos and all,
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> Thanks a lot for your comments.
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> if we follow your logic it means that only those who are responsible for
> the fellowship and NextGen programs are able to comment on its
> effectiveness, although fellowship is supposed to be beneficial for the
> entire community and should be assessed by the community.
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> I asked on the GNSO call when the questionnaire was presented why it
> missed questions about the fellowship and NextGen (as these programs have a
> large share in the ICANN travel budget) and whether this would be added at
> the later stage. I was told that we can add our comments on this at the end
> of the questionnaire as general remarks.
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> I believe there are a lot of concerns about these programs. I see that we
> have no consensus as to whether we can comment on this, but I do think it's
> worth to raise these concerns and that we as a GNSO council are in a
> position to do so. This is what "general remarks" section is for, in my
> opinion.
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> So I am apparently with the drafting team and with Erika and Julf here
> that instead of deleting the paragraph about these programs, we might even
> add more there, e.g. highlight that they are not ICANN focused enough.
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> Warm regards,
>
> Tanya
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> On 18 November 2017 at 13:32, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <crg at isoc-cr.org>
> wrote:
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> Good morning!
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> I have read the questionnaire again. I think that the questionnaire is
> asking questions about our own SO (only).
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> While I think the comment is interesting, I do agree with Donna that is
> falls outside of the Questionnaires realm.
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> So in good ICANN Style, If somebody wants to write a high level
> "rationale" about ICANN travel support policy, it make sense to add it in
> the email remitting the GNSO answers to the questionnaire.
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> But in my view, it does not answer any of the questions.
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> My two cents
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> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
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> On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com> wrote:
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> Erika,
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> > How about mentioning that there's concern that the Fellowship Program is
> > not sufficiently focusing on ICANN issues? I made a recommendation
> > below. If you don't like it, change it or don't include it. Both is fine
> > with me.
>
> I think it is a good addition.
>
>         Julf
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