[council] Community member liability for participation in PDPs

Ayden Férdeline icann at ferdeline.com
Sun Apr 29 13:35:13 UTC 2018

I have reviewed all of the GNSO Council transcripts from Abu Dhabi again today, and I still cannot find any reference to your question, Stephanie, which I very much do remember being asked. I hope it is just the case that I have missed the transcript, or it was inadvertently not uploaded to the Council calendar and Sched archive. I have always operated under the assumption that transcripts are accurate and complete — I really do hope this is the case.

Unfortunately I cannot review the recordings to try to find the session, as they are attached to Adobe Connect (and therefore will not play at present). This is the danger, I suppose, of being reliant on a tool who saves its recordings in a proprietary format — it certainly raises the question of what will happen to this historical record if, in the future, ICANN does not renew its contract with Adobe. How will we be able to retrieve and replay these files?

I would greatly appreciate it if staff could please help me locate this question in the transcript or meeting recording. Thank you!

Kind regards,

Ayden Férdeline

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On 28 April 2018 11:03 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:

> Thanks Ayden, I certainly asked the question, and I believe it was Erika who said good question....later, not at the same time.  So it should be in the transcript around the time I called ICANN a three headed monster....
> cheers Stephanie
> On 2018-04-28 10:39, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> As we enter into discussions around next steps re: RDS/GDPR and entertain the possibility of an Expedited PDP, I wanted to re-raise a question that Stephanie Perrin asked in Abu Dhabi, and to ask whether or not a response to it was received. And if the answer is we did not receive a response, I think it is important we obtain one urgently. If, in order to receive a response, we must put this question on Council letterhead and submit it as a formal piece of correspondence, I would like to suggest that we do so.
>> In Abu Dhabi, Stephanie asked the CEO whether community members who participate in Policy Development Processes could be held liable in the event of civil litigation following on from the policies which we develop. She noted that board members, as directors, and employees, as agents of ICANN, have immunity, but wanted to know if ICANN was absorbing this liability too for the community members who participate in the activities of the multistakeholder community. She said we need protection too.
>> I would like to be able to pull out a transcript and to quote Stephanie directly, however I have reviewed many of them today and cannot find her question in there. However, I do distinctly remember it being asked and a follow-up question coming from another member of the Council. Maybe I missed it in the transcripts; if so, I would appreciate if someone could please link to this transcript and provide the page number. Thanks!
>> Best wishes,
>> Ayden Férdeline
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