[council] Community member liability for participation in PDPs

Ayden Férdeline icann at ferdeline.com
Sun Apr 29 13:43:58 UTC 2018

Thanks, Martín-

However I would like to receive a similar confirmation from ICANN's General Counsel that, in the event of civil litigation against ICANN under, say, the GDPR, ICANN will defend community members and not just directors and staff.

I am not a lawyer; I'm not sure whether this is a reassurance we should receive from ICANN org, or whether we should be obtaining this from our own, independent counsel, but I think this is something that we do need to receive advice on.

If we are about to embark, potentially, on an Expedited PDP, where the community will be under a tight time crunch to develop a policy that could well result in legal action (from potentially a wide range of unsatisfied stakeholders!), I think we in the community need assurances that we are not absorbing any personal liability in participating in the EPDP.

Best wishes,


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On 28 April 2018 7:54 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent <mpsilvavalent at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ayden, at least from my perspective as lawyer, there is no reason to bealive there could be such liability, ever. Not in this PDP nor any others. We the policy making members are not to worry about that.
> Cheers,
> Martín Silva
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2018, 11:40 AM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> As we enter into discussions around next steps re: RDS/GDPR and entertain the possibility of an Expedited PDP, I wanted to re-raise a question that Stephanie Perrin asked in Abu Dhabi, and to ask whether or not a response to it was received. And if the answer is we did not receive a response, I think it is important we obtain one urgently. If, in order to receive a response, we must put this question on Council letterhead and submit it as a formal piece of correspondence, I would like to suggest that we do so.
>> In Abu Dhabi, Stephanie asked the CEO whether community members who participate in Policy Development Processes could be held liable in the event of civil litigation following on from the policies which we develop. She noted that board members, as directors, and employees, as agents of ICANN, have immunity, but wanted to know if ICANN was absorbing this liability too for the community members who participate in the activities of the multistakeholder community. She said we need protection too.
>> I would like to be able to pull out a transcript and to quote Stephanie directly, however I have reviewed many of them today and cannot find her question in there. However, I do distinctly remember it being asked and a follow-up question coming from another member of the Council. Maybe I missed it in the transcripts; if so, I would appreciate if someone could please link to this transcript and provide the page number. Thanks!
>> Best wishes,
>> Ayden Férdeline
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