[council] Fellowships for ICANN65 Marrakech - Update

Martin Pablo Silva Valent mpsilvavalent at gmail.com
Tue Apr 9 16:03:20 UTC 2019 

I agree, for several fellows in the past, the experience was a big intensive improvement in their English, so it is tricky to marginalize less fluent people only based on that. Fluently is usually acquired in experiences like this one. I would say they require some basic level to follow the debate, like they do currently, but not professional level. Remember a lot of their value is their relevance on their community back home, not only to work in icann matter but to take their acquired knowledge on their own IG work. 

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> On Apr 9, 2019, at 11:58 AM, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Thanks for this ongoing effort. I have read the following as part of
> the bullet points/
> 
> "Ability to communicate in English orally and in writing, in a
> respectful and constructive manner"
> 
> I would like to object to this statement. The ability to speak English
> SHOULD NOT, in my opinion, be a criterion when selecting a member of
> the fellowship program.
> 
> Happy to hear what you all think here.
> 
> Thanks,
> Arsene
> 
> 2019-04-09 12:15 UTC+02:00, Marie Pattullo <marie.pattullo at aim.be <mailto:marie.pattullo at aim.be>>:
>> Merci!
>> 
>> From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 12:14 PM
>> To: Marie Pattullo <marie.pattullo at aim.be>
>> Cc: Pam Little <pam.little at alibaba-inc.com>; Darcy Southwell
>> <darcy.southwell at endurance.com>; council <council-bounces at gnso.icann.org>;
>> council at gnso.icann.org
>> Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: Fellowships for ICANN65 Marrakech - Update
>> 
>> Hi Marie,
>> 
>> I think that is fine.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Rafik
>> 
>> Le mar. 9 avr. 2019 à 17:25, Marie Pattullo
>> <marie.pattullo at aim.be <mailto:marie.pattullo at aim.be><mailto:marie.pattullo at aim.be <mailto:marie.pattullo at aim.be>>> a écrit :
>> I’m talking to the BC Rafik; hoping it’s not too late for me to send
>> comments in on Thursday?
>> Best
>> Marie
>> 
>> From: council
>> <council-bounces at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org><mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org>>> On
>> Behalf Of Pam Little
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 5:36 AM
>> To: Darcy Southwell
>> <darcy.southwell at endurance.com <mailto:darcy.southwell at endurance.com><mailto:darcy.southwell at endurance.com <mailto:darcy.southwell at endurance.com>>>;
>> council
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>> Cc: council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org><mailto:council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: Fellowships for ICANN65 Marrakech - Update
>> 
>> Thank you for the reminder, Rafik
>> 
>> I have updated the strawman list of criteria/desirable skills Heather has
>> kindly put together. I have tried to incorporate Darcy's feedback but
>> welcome further input/suggestions.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Pam
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Sender:Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com><mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>>
>> Sent At:2019 Apr. 9 (Tue.) 11:16
>> Recipient:Darcy Southwell
>> <darcy.southwell at endurance.com <mailto:darcy.southwell at endurance.com><mailto:darcy.southwell at endurance.com <mailto:darcy.southwell at endurance.com>>>
>> Cc:council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org><mailto:Cc%3Acouncil at gnso.icann.org <mailto:3Acouncil at gnso.icann.org>>
>> <council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org><mailto:council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>>
>> Subject:Re: [council] Fwd: Fellowships for ICANN65 Marrakech - Update
>> 
>> Thanks Darcy for the feedback.
>> I would like to ask other councillors to share their input in order to
>> update the list.
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> Rafik
>> 
>> Le mar. 2 avr. 2019 à 03:24, Darcy Southwell
>> <darcy.southwell at endurance.com <mailto:darcy.southwell at endurance.com><mailto:darcy.southwell at endurance.com <mailto:darcy.southwell at endurance.com>>> a
>> écrit :
>> Thanks for sharing, Rafik.
>> 
>> When I think about fellowship selection, I also think about how we measure
>> success once a fellow has been selected and completed any level of
>> participation.  I think much of what is outlined is the strawman is valuable
>> for selection criteria.  When we refer to “awareness,” we’re really
>> referring to knowledge, and we may want to establish definitions of
>> knowledge levels.  For example, consider this these:
>> 
>> 
>> •         Familiar = becoming aware, first introduction
>> 
>> •         Basic = ability to talk about at a high level
>> 
>> •         Fluent = comfortable getting into detail and teaching others
>> 
>> •         Expert = subject matter expert, let me write a book on the
>> subject
>> 
>> Working with defined levels of knowledge allows the Council to evaluate the
>> effectiveness of the selection criteria and the engagement efforts that take
>> place with the fellows to enable their growth and engagement in the
>> community.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Darcy
>> 
>> 
>> From: council
>> <council-bounces at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org><mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org>>> On
>> Behalf Of Rafik Dammak
>> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 10:22 PM
>> To: Council GNSO <council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org><mailto:council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>>
>> Subject: [council] Fwd: Fellowships for ICANN65 Marrakech - Update
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am sharing update from Heather regarding the fellowship selection
>> committee and strawman document for GNSO specific skills expected from
>> fellows, for council review and input.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Rafik
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> De : Heather Forrest
>> Date: mer. 13 mars 2019 à 17:38
>> Subject: Re: Fellowships for ICANN65 Marrakech - Update
>> To:
>> 
>> Dear Keith, Rafik, Pam,
>> 
>> Now that the Council meeting of ICANN64 is behind you, I return to the
>> request from the Fellowship Selection Committee for GNSO-specific target
>> skills for ICANN Fellows in the ICANN66 selection round.
>> 
>> For your post-ICANN64 action item list, attached is the strawman I
>> volunteered to prepare. If Council can finalise its list of criteria at or
>> before its April meeting, these should be able to be applied to the ICANN66
>> selection round.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Heather
>> 
>> 
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