[council] GAC communique
Johan Helsingius
julf at julf.com
Mon Jul 15 16:39:17 UTC 2019
I have taken a shot at a new wording.
Julf
On 15-07-19 12:15, philippe.fouquart at orange.com wrote:
> Julf, Paul,
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> Thanks for proposing text on this.
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> I tend to agree with the idea of having a neutral approach on this along the lines of the Abu Dhabi comment, which we may just refer to wih Julf's suggested text. Since GAC's Marrakech Communiqué "should not be construed as new GAC Advice on this matter" as they say, our comment doesn't need to be new either.
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> While I'm generally very concerned about the board not "caving in" to GAC's advice in the decision-making process, I don't see the need to "score points" when the decision's been taken. I know "welcoming the decision" is not meant like this, but it could be interpreted that way.
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> Regards,
> Philippe
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> From: council [mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Johan Helsingius
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 9:16 AM
> To: McGrady, Paul D.
> Cc: council at gnso.icann.org
> Subject: Re: [council] GAC communique
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> Thanks, Paul!
>
> While I agree with the spirit, I am concerned that "The GNSO
> Council welcomes the Board’s recent decision to allow the
> .amazon application to proceed" and "The GNSO Council is
> of the view that ICANN has fully implemented the GAC’s
> Advice on this matter" might not be well received by some
> GAC members. Perhaps a more neutral "The GNSO Council
> doesn't have anything new to add to the previous information
> provided as responses to the Abu Dhabi, Kobe and Barcelona
> communiques"?
>
> Julf
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> On 15-07-19 00:01, McGrady, Paul D. wrote:
>> Thanks All. Please visit the link to the document. I have put in
>> initial draft language for discussion. There isn’t much in this
>> Communiqué, so our response is, I think appropriately, thin.
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>> Best,
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>> Paul
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>> *From:*Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 8, 2019 7:44 AM
>> *To:* McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady at taftlaw.com>; Johan Helsingius
>> <julf at julf.com>
>> *Cc:* council at gnso.icann.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [council] GAC communique
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>> Paul, all,
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>> Here is the link to the GNSO Council Review of:
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>> * The Abu Dhabi Communique that is referenced in relation to the topic
>> .amazon:
>> https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/review-gac-communique-30nov17-en.pdf
>> * The Kobe Communique that is referenced in relation to the topic of
>> Whois and data protection:
>> https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/review-gac-communique-18apr19-en.pdf
>> * The Barcelona Communique which also includes a list of the previous
>> input provided by the GNSO Council on the topic of two character
>> country codes at the second level:
>> https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/review-gac-communique-13dec18-en.pdf
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>> Also attached you will find the draft motion, please note that the
>> deadline for the 18 July meeting is today – one of you may want to
>> submit it as a placeholder while you work on the review?
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>> Best regards,
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>> Marika
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>> On 7/8/19, 13:35, "council on behalf of McGrady, Paul D."
>> <council-bounces at gnso.icann.org on behalf of PMcGrady at taftlaw.com
>> <mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org%20on%20behalf%20of%20PMcGrady at taftlaw.com>>
>> wrote:
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>> Thanks Julf.
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>> Steve, could you please provide links to our prior communications on
>> these issues? While the last column may need fresh content, I expect
>> the others can be repopulated with much of the same content as before.
>> I'm happy to pull that content forward into this new document.
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>> Best,
>>
>> Paul
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> From: Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>
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>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 10:52 AM
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>> To: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady at taftlaw.com
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>> Cc: council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>
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>> Subject: Re: [council] GAC communique
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>> Hi, Paul,
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>> Steve Chan has already done that:
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>> "Hello Council Volunteers,
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>> To aid in your review of the GAC Communique from Marrakech
>> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gac.icann.org_contentMigrated_icann65-2Dmarrakech-2Dcommunique&d=DwICAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=4X-ptATIWmwJ4VtenNLrPgIK0h5Yg5a_6ZqenYr5tcU&s=_3jBpaiM_YBa9p7MEUXl_-_XXV04iWJeWpLLn--HJzY&e=
>> ),
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>> staff has set up the GNSO GAC Communique review template here:
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>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1VCdaqiwfV6UE1uR0J-2DsFZysVFFIC-2DSDahmhk6Tg8168_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwICAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=4X-ptATIWmwJ4VtenNLrPgIK0h5Yg5a_6ZqenYr5tcU&s=Zjwx7zpoK7gjhj8YlPyQi5b064Quh7_R8BYV7vj4kzc&e=
>> .
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>> Note that there is no new GAC Advice in this Communique, only
>> Follow-Up on Previous Advice. As I understand, this is still considered
>> GAC Advice."
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>> Julf
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>> SteveOn 30-06-19 17:32, McGrady, Paul D. wrote:
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>> > Thanks Julf.
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>> > Staff, would you mind kicking off an inaugural email to the
>> handful of us who agreed to work on our response? Also, if you really
>> want to spoil us, could you load the 3 pieces of advice into the usual
>> template?
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>> > Thanks all!
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>> > Best,
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>> > Paul
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>> > Helsingius
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>> > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:42 AM
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>> > To: council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>
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>> > Subject: [council] GAC communique
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>> > The GAC communique is now online at
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>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gac.icann.org_contentMigrated_icann65-2Dmarrakech-2Dcommunique&d=DwICAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=4X-ptATIWmwJ4VtenNLrPgIK0h5Yg5a_6ZqenYr5tcU&s=_3jBpaiM_YBa9p7MEUXl_-_XXV04iWJeWpLLn--HJzY&e=
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>> > In my view, nothing that we really need to react on.
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