[council] For your review: Council SSAD Small Team draft letter
Kurt Pritz
kurt at kjpritz.com
Thu Apr 1 03:30:51 UTC 2021
My thoughts:
I think “Why so long?” will not get us to answers we desire, i.e., a discussion that will facilitate the timely implementation of consensus-backed policies. I would go back to our goals as we set them out when this dialogue started:
1. Can the cost-benefit analysis requested by the council be conducted in parallel with the ODP? To us, this makes sense in that a cost-benefit analysis might lead ICANN to find a more cost-effective way (e.g., a phased implementation) to implement the process.
2. How does the Board intend to use the cost-benefit analysis in its decision making, i.e., to find that the SSAD implementation is or is not in the interests of ICANN, or to turn back the issue to the GNSO?
3. Does the six-month ODP forecasted for the SSAD recommendation portend a new practice of tolling implementation while the ODPs are conducted? Or can some implementation steps occur in parallel (when it makes sense) in order to better achieve ICANN’s mission to operate at speeds responsive to the needs of the DNS? (Obviously, this point applies to PDPs coming down the pike.)
4. Will the Board consider rejecting the SSAD recommendations based on the letter received from the IPC? If not, what is the effect of that letter?
I don’t think we should raise the “opportunity costs” issue. To me, ICANN should be managing these implementation efforts in parallel and staff them according. I.e., they should be managed according to our processes as they roll off the production line, and not delayed and managed by priority.
In any event, I think we should go back to our original request for a cost-benefit analysis and attempt to avoid having that pushed out for six months.
Thanks for letting me express these thoughts.
Kurt
> On Mar 31, 2021, at 7:45 PM, Tom Dale via council <council at gnso.icann.org> wrote:
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> Thank you Pam.
>
> I think the proposed questions for the Board address the gaps between what Council has sought to date and what the ODP Scoping Document appears to propose.
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> Regards
>
> Tom
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> From: council <council-bounces at gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Pam Little via council <council at gnso.icann.org>
> Date: Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 8:31 am
> To: council at gnso.icann.org <council at gnso.icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [council] For your review: Council SSAD Small Team draft letter
>
> Dear Councilors,
>
> As a follow-up to Philippe's email, please find attached a list of proposed questions for our meeting with the Board tomorrow. These questions are intended to cover Council input (as set out in our January letter to the Board and the draft letter) that seem not have been addressed in the ODP scoping document or seeking further clarification on some aspects of the ODP scope.
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> Another topic that was suggested to be included in our meeting with the Board is SubPro. So if you have any specific questions for the Board on this topic, it would be good if you could share them on the list before the meeting.
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> Bear in mind our meeting with the Board is for one hour so we may not have time to all questions.
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> Kind regards,
>
> Pam
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> Subject:Re: [council] For your review: Council SSAD Small Team draft letter
>
> Dear Philippe:
> Many thanks to Pam for producing the referral document.
>
> Having reviewed Pam's comparative side-by-side analysis, I tend to agree that the letter might be redundant. As Pam suggested, it could still be a collector for Council's talking points and so useful downstream.
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> Hold and repurpose.
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> Best,
> Carlton
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> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 3:17 AM philippe.fouquart--- via council <council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> As you would recall, at our last Council call we agreed to try and develop a response letter to the board on the SSAD prior to our call on April 1st.
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> In light of the discussion on this letter and the board’s vote, sending the letter at this point would appear redundant in light of the overlap with the ODP scoping document, and difficult to agree on anyway given the timeline.
>
> We discussed this within the leadership and we suggest to approach our meeting with the questions drew out of the letter which Pam provided a first draft of. The goal would essentially be the same as the letter without losing the work that was put into it ie
> a) confirm our understanding (now consolidated with the ODP scoping document) and
> b) raise questions that wouldn’t seem to be addressed (seem to be missing in the scoping document).
>
> It is a bit less formal than the intended letter but would avoid appearing lagging being. Please have a look at the document that Pam circulated and review.
>
> Thanks.
> Regards,
> Philippe
>
> From: council [mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org>] On Behalf Of Pam Little via council
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 6:59 AM
> To: council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>; Caitlin Tubergen <caitlin.tubergen at icann.org <mailto:caitlin.tubergen at icann.org>>
> Subject: Re: [council] For your review: Council SSAD Small Team draft letter
>
> Dear Councilors,
>
> Further to Caitlin's email below, I have developed the attached document to try to see how the ODP scope correlates to the exchange between the Council and the Board to date and the draft letter to the Board that is still in progress.
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> As you will see from these tables, most of the questions raised or to be raised by the Council seem somehow covered in the ODP scope but notably the Council-requested cost-benefit analysis is missing. So it seems to me we should reconsider whether the letter is still needed or whether we should just focus on talking points for our upcoming meeting with the Board.
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> Kind regards,
>
> Pam
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> Sent At:2021 Mar. 26 (Fri.) 09:44
> Recipient:council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:Recipient%3Acouncil at gnso.icann.org> <council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
> Subject:Re: [council] For your review: Council SSAD Small Team draft letter
>
> Dear Councilors,
>
> Thank you to those who have added comments to the draft SSAD letter to the Board <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YjR-YsjqRSTnU0a_bbG3zXUwpeJ7g6cO1kIRudrYDqQ/edit?ts=60524b5e>.
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> During today’s Public Board Meeting, the Board passed a motion directing ICANN org to initiate the ODP for the SSAD and provided additional information on the SSAD ODP and what it will entail. Please find a link to the session, which will include the recording as soon as available:https://70.schedule.icann.org/meetings/stTLvWoo7CtGti8du#/?limit=10&sortByFields[0]=isPinned&sortByFields[1]=lastActivityAt&sortByOrders[0]=-1&sortByOrders[1]=-1&uid=E6umHFHPvcfTAnSNE <https://70.schedule.icann.org/meetings/stTLvWoo7CtGti8du#/?limit=10&sortByFields[0]=isPinned&sortByFields[1]=lastActivityAt&sortByOrders[0]=-1&sortByOrders[1]=-1&uid=E6umHFHPvcfTAnSNE>.
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> If you were unable to attend the session, it may be worth reviewing the recording to determine if the letter/talking points require any editing in light of the Board’s comments.
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> Thank you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Caitlin
>
> From: Caitlin Tubergen <caitlin.tubergen at icann.org <mailto:caitlin.tubergen at icann.org>>
> Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 6:20 PM
> To: "council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>" <council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
> Subject: For your review: Council SSAD Small Team draft letter
>
> Dear Councilors,
>
> Further to the discussion from today’s meeting, please provide feedback to the draft SSAD letter to the Board by COB Friday, 26 March: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YjR-YsjqRSTnU0a_bbG3zXUwpeJ7g6cO1kIRudrYDqQ/edit?ts=60524b5e <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YjR-YsjqRSTnU0a_bbG3zXUwpeJ7g6cO1kIRudrYDqQ/edit?ts=60524b5e>.
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> Thank you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Caitlin
>
> From: Caitlin Tubergen <caitlin.tubergen at icann.org <mailto:caitlin.tubergen at icann.org>>
> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 3:36 PM
> To: "council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>" <council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
> Subject: Council SSAD Small Team draft letter
>
> Dear Councilors:
>
> Following the Council's recent engagement with the Board regarding the SSAD consultation, the SSAD Small Team worked together to draft a letter <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YjR-YsjqRSTnU0a_bbG3zXUwpeJ7g6cO1kIRudrYDqQ/edit?ts=60524b5e>, confirming the outcomes of the meeting and posing additional questions for the Board's consideration. The letter still has several comments and proposed edits, which have been left in for the sake of transparency (since all commenters may not have had an opportunity to review the most recent edits). For ease of readability, you may wish to review the draft in "viewing" mode to avoid the array of colors. This letter is on the agenda fortomorrow's meeting, and Council leadership will go over it in greater detail tomorrow.
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> We request that you do not make any additional changes to the Google Doc at this time; instead, please express concerns or provide additional comments via the mailing list.
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> Thank you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Caitlin
>
>
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