[council] SSAD Light Impact Council - draft response

Fri Jul 1 14:51:08 UTC 2022

Councilors,

I have made a few additional edits shown in track changes.

Thank you,

John

From: council <council-bounces at gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of kurt kjpritz.com via council
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 1:01 AM
To: Caitlin Tubergen <caitlin.tubergen at icann.org>
Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org; council at gnso.icann.org
Subject: Re: [council] SSAD Light Impact Council - draft response

◄External Email► - From: council-bounces at gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org>

Hi Caitlin:

Thank you.

Jeff’s additions seems like non-sequiturs so I tried to smooth them out. I apologize for my compulsive instincts to edit.

Best regards,

Kurt

On Jun 30, 2022, at 2:50 PM, Caitlin Tubergen <caitlin.tubergen at icann.org<mailto:caitlin.tubergen at icann.org>> wrote:

Thank you for the updated version, Kurt. The attached version now combines the most recent edits from Kurt, Greg, and Jeff.

Per Philippe’s earlier request, if anyone has any further proposed edits or objects to any of the edits received thus far, please provide them to the list by Friday, 1 July at 17:00 UTC.

Best regards,

Caitlin

From: council <council-bounces at gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of "kurt kjpritz.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__kjpritz.com_&d=DwMGaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAm5U0rBXiZs3BfB3GfKU2uR&m=OKBpgVNiHo4aBsrOLTBTOh7fgmcntpA6HPFev26dhBYsl8q8I6_DE7sbEuTllbXo&s=9uNwqu6Sfq4lxR4FojFZmuB4rDlNZou3rZQWOPbX5sU&e=> via council" <council at gnso.icann.org<mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
Reply-To: "kurt kjpritz.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__kjpritz.com_&d=DwMGaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAm5U0rBXiZs3BfB3GfKU2uR&m=OKBpgVNiHo4aBsrOLTBTOh7fgmcntpA6HPFev26dhBYsl8q8I6_DE7sbEuTllbXo&s=9uNwqu6Sfq4lxR4FojFZmuB4rDlNZou3rZQWOPbX5sU&e=>" <kurt at kjpritz.com<mailto:kurt at kjpritz.com>>
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 12:57 PM
To: 陳曼茹 Manju Chen <manju at nii.org.tw<mailto:manju at nii.org.tw>>
Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>" <gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>, "council at gnso.icann.org<mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>" <council at gnso.icann.org<mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [council] SSAD Light Impact Council - draft response

Hi Manju:

That was my writing and I probably tried to cram too many thoughts into one sentence for the sake of brevity — and could have laid it out a bit better.

I have attached a “closer-to-final” version that expands a bit on that sentence and also incorporates Greg’s edits. If you think the longer version is more clear and not too burdensome, we could include this additional material.

If it is still unclear to you, let me know and I will try again.

Best regards,

Kurt

On Jun 29, 2022, at 9:12 PM, 陳曼茹 Manju Chen <manju at nii.org.tw<mailto:manju at nii.org.tw>> wrote:

Hi all,

Sorry, I know it must be because of my inadequacy in English as a non-native speaker, but I'm having trouble understanding what this paragraph means:

We have monitored the considerable community discussions devoted to this prioritisation topic. In each instance, community members were heard to ask specific operations questions to aid in their consideration. We think this is not the best use of the community’s time, nor does the topic fall within its expertise.

Are we saying the community is being asked specific operation questions to aid in ICANN org or the Board's consideration? I think I understand the last 2 sentences where we say we don't think those questions are appropriate to be directed to us/ the community. It's just the sentence marked in yellow I have trouble comprehending.

Would be grateful for any explanation and sorry again if this is after the deadline!

Best,
Manju

On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 10:16 PM DiBiase, Gregory via council <council at gnso.icann.org<mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>> wrote:

Hi All,

A couple other small edits attached that I think capture our conversation in The Hague.

Thanks,

Greg

From: council <council-bounces at gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of philippe.fouquart--- via council
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 5:34 AM
To: kurt kjpritz.com [kjpritz.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/kjpritz.com/__;!!PtGJab4!7qpUlrJKFOPA10SCoiU19drZ9iqJxPi9ppkSKMAtRIAz5GWWN4lcg-NAGbLu5lnTI95oOvTcbvqRCOoYzBUF22q07Lvs9VE$> <kurt at kjpritz.com<mailto:kurt at kjpritz.com>>
Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>; council at gnso.icann.org<mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL][council] SSAD Light Impact Council - draft response

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe.

Correction: we did say _tomorrow_ Wednesday 29th cob as deadline for this, not today.

Thanks,

Philippe

Orange Restricted

From: FOUQUART Philippe INNOV/NET
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 2:27 PM
To: 'kurt kjpritz.com [kjpritz.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/kjpritz.com/__;!!PtGJab4!7qpUlrJKFOPA10SCoiU19drZ9iqJxPi9ppkSKMAtRIAz5GWWN4lcg-NAGbLu5lnTI95oOvTcbvqRCOoYzBUF22q07Lvs9VE$>' <kurt at kjpritz.com<mailto:kurt at kjpritz.com>>
Cc: council at gnso.icann.org<mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>; gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>
Subject: RE: [council] SSAD Light Impact Council - draft response

Hi Kurt.

Thanks for sorting out the order of priorities in the letter, this is helpful. Some of the elements of the first iteration being more records of the discussion, we will see whether there’s benefit in bringing some of them back without losing in conciseness or being repetitive.

Everyone,

please share any other comment you may have by the end of the day, for us to send this later this week.

Thanks.

Regards,

Philippe

Orange Restricted

From: kurt kjpritz.com [kjpritz.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/kjpritz.com/__;!!PtGJab4!7qpUlrJKFOPA10SCoiU19drZ9iqJxPi9ppkSKMAtRIAz5GWWN4lcg-NAGbLu5lnTI95oOvTcbvqRCOoYzBUF22q07Lvs9VE$> <kurt at kjpritz.com<mailto:kurt at kjpritz.com>>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 10:52 PM
To: FOUQUART Philippe INNOV/NET <philippe.fouquart at orange.com<mailto:philippe.fouquart at orange.com>>
Cc: council at gnso.icann.org<mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>; gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [council] SSAD Light Impact Council - draft response

Hi Philippe:

Thanks for the opportunity to comment on this draft. Please consider the attached and feel free to use some, all or none of it.

I have added a brief bit of context at the start as this issue did not arise from the Board-Council interaction but rather came in separately from the staff. I maintained the two main messages:

  1.  to emphasize the importance of both (SSAD and SubPro) initiatives, and
  2.  that the Council does not view itself in a position, nor does it consider it the role of the Council, to dictate the allocation of ICANN org resources now that these policy recommendations are with the ICANN Board.

There was some re-arranging / re-wording that would render a redline somewhat ineffective but I can produce one.

I hope you find this constructive and helpful.

Best regards,

Kurt

On Jun 22, 2022, at 3:22 AM, philippe.fouquart--- via council <council at gnso.icann.org<mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>> wrote:

Dear Councilors,

For you review, please find attached a draft letter to the Board regarding the impact of the development of an SSAD Light Design Paper on other ongoing work, including the SubPro ODP. This is intended to capture the conclusions of last week’s discussion item.

Please provide your comments within a week, by Wednesday 29th COB UTC.

Hope all those who could attend the The Hague meeting travelled safe and well back home.

Regards,

Philippe

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc

pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler

a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration,

Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci.

This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law;

they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation.

If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments.

As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified.

Thank you.

<SSAD Light Impact Council Response - upd 16 June 2022.docx>_______________________________________________
council mailing list
council at gnso.icann.org<mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>
https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_listinfo_council&d=DwMGaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAm5U0rBXiZs3BfB3GfKU2uR&m=OKBpgVNiHo4aBsrOLTBTOh7fgmcntpA6HPFev26dhBYsl8q8I6_DE7sbEuTllbXo&s=zkOsRI_jY7x41E616IVXgtIsgS0HqSoqdaz9IZF_rfM&e=>

_______________________________________________
By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_privacy_policy&d=DwMGaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAm5U0rBXiZs3BfB3GfKU2uR&m=OKBpgVNiHo4aBsrOLTBTOh7fgmcntpA6HPFev26dhBYsl8q8I6_DE7sbEuTllbXo&s=_lbj2Lt5xvPnR1-T202eN9WY1lI6xj6eQ6lKzmtoitI&e=>) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_privacy_tos&d=DwMGaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAm5U0rBXiZs3BfB3GfKU2uR&m=OKBpgVNiHo4aBsrOLTBTOh7fgmcntpA6HPFev26dhBYsl8q8I6_DE7sbEuTllbXo&s=B6NKDemlWTLYOlTungcsz8X-k9JfMWwYVBa_v0pr2rM&e=>). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc

pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler

a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration,

Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci.

This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law;

they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation.

If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments.

As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified.

Thank you.
_______________________________________________
council mailing list
council at gnso.icann.org<mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>
https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_listinfo_council&d=DwMGaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAm5U0rBXiZs3BfB3GfKU2uR&m=OKBpgVNiHo4aBsrOLTBTOh7fgmcntpA6HPFev26dhBYsl8q8I6_DE7sbEuTllbXo&s=zkOsRI_jY7x41E616IVXgtIsgS0HqSoqdaz9IZF_rfM&e=>

_______________________________________________
By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_privacy_policy&d=DwMGaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAm5U0rBXiZs3BfB3GfKU2uR&m=OKBpgVNiHo4aBsrOLTBTOh7fgmcntpA6HPFev26dhBYsl8q8I6_DE7sbEuTllbXo&s=_lbj2Lt5xvPnR1-T202eN9WY1lI6xj6eQ6lKzmtoitI&e=>) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_privacy_tos&d=DwMGaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAm5U0rBXiZs3BfB3GfKU2uR&m=OKBpgVNiHo4aBsrOLTBTOh7fgmcntpA6HPFev26dhBYsl8q8I6_DE7sbEuTllbXo&s=B6NKDemlWTLYOlTungcsz8X-k9JfMWwYVBa_v0pr2rM&e=>). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

<SSAD Light Impact Council Response - upd 16 June 2022(GD-KP)_JN.docx>

Confidentiality Notice
This message is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately either by phone (800-237-2000) or reply to this e-mail and delete all copies of this message.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/council/attachments/20220701/0231a87f/attachment-0001.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: SSAD Light Impact Council Response - upd 16 June 2022(GD-KP-k).docx
Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document
Size: 18954 bytes
Desc: SSAD Light Impact Council Response - upd 16 June 2022(GD-KP-k).docx
URL: <https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/council/attachments/20220701/0231a87f/SSADLightImpactCouncilResponse-upd16June2022GD-KP-k-0001.docx>