[council] Fwd: [FormerMembersCCWG-AP] ICANN Grant Program session at ICANN78

Wed Nov 1 21:54:05 UTC 2023

Hi All,

I am following up on this thread to flag upcoming deadlines for engagement on this issue and to add to Damon’s helpful summary below.

If I am reading the resolutions and rationale<https://www.icann.org/en/board-activities-and-meetings/materials/approved-resolutions-regular-meeting-of-the-icann-board-26-10-2023-en> correctly, it appears that the plan is to proceed with the contractual provisions requiring grant applicants to give up their rights to IRPs. While the Board did say they would simultaneously pursue making a fundamental bylaws change, effectuating this change does not appear to be a prerequisite for Staff beginning the grant cycle with the aforementioned contractual provisions re: IRPs. I am not sure this course of action fully addresses all of the questions raised by Councilors at our last meeting (e.g., questions about whether or not the fundamental bylaws can be contracted around).

I’m highlighting this now since there are some upcoming deadlines for engagement (15 days to file a Reconsideration Request, 15 days to begin the Cooperate Engagement Process, 30 days for an IRP unless tolled by the Community Engagement Process).

Is this something that the Council should keep pushing on?  If so, what would that look like?

Thanks,
Greg

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Mark,

We had discussed in our meeting today whether or not the Board needed to amend a fundamental bylaw to proceed with the grant program.  As of today’s meeting, they apparently had the stance that no so amendment was needed and the concern (from Susan and others) was that ICANN could not get around a fundamental bylaw with a contractual term in a terms and conditions section of a contract.  Greg agreed to raise our concern to the Board. At the Board meeting, the Board announced that while they were still of the opinion that a fundamental bylaw change was not needed, that they would seek on in tandem with implementation of the grant program.  Basically saying we don’t need it but we’ll get it anyway due to community concerns.  Avri expressed concern over this approach but upon a vote, she and the rest of the board voted to move it forward.

I hope that helps.

Damon

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I'm lost in this. If anybody can provide a summary, that would be helpful.
On 26 Oct 2023 16:34, Ashcraft, Damon via council wrote:

Looks like the Board will pursue a fundamental

Bylaws change per Becky in the Board meeting.

Damon

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Hi All,

The Board will seek to address concerns raised by the GNSO at the meeting later today.  Stay tuned.

Thanks,

Greg

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Dear Council,

We just learned in the ICANN Grant Program presentation taking place now that the Board intends to take action THIS AFTERNOON to modify CCWG Final Recommendation #7 regarding amendment of the ByLaws.  The slide states that this decision will be reviewed after the first grantmaking round to determine whether the alternative proposal is adequate to control the risks that the ByLaws amendment recommended by the CCWG were intended to address.

Anne

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Date: Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 11:57 PM

Subject: Re: [FormerMembersCCWG-AP] ICANN Grant Program session at ICANN78

To: Giovanni Seppia <giovanni.seppia at icann.org<mailto:giovanni.seppia at icann.org><mailto:giovanni.seppia at icann.org><mailto:giovanni.seppia at icann.org>>

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Thank you Giovanni.  Please note that GNSO Council is in receipt of a letter from Xavier regarding the issue that has been addressed on this list in relation to the CCWG Final Report Recommendation to the Board to amend the ByLaws to protect grants from being overturned using the Accountability mechanisms.  In this regard, not much discussion has occurred on this list since Erika sent an email stating that the Co-Chairs of the CCWG support the Final Recommendation as previously adopted by the Board to amend the ByLaws.

A status update to this list and to those copied would be appreciated.  The GNSO Council had sent a letter stating that any alternate solution varying the Final Report should have the approval of all CCWG Chartering Organizations.  This is because Chartering Organization approval of CCWG Final Recommendations is a Fundamental Principle of the CCWG Working Group guidelines.   The response to the GNSO Council contained in the most recent letter from Xavier will be under discussion as an agenda item at the next GNSO Council meeting.  (Please note Council members are copied on this email.)

A hybrid solution has been proposed on this list, whereby the first $10M could be granted in a timely manner with a ByLaws amendment process to be followed for the next and subsequent grant application rounds.  We look forward to hearing from ICANN in relation to this alternative proposal from some of the former members of the CCWG.  (Raising this suggestion on the list should not in any way be interpreted as agreement by the GNSO Council to that proposal.)

Thank you,

Anne

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On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 3:09 AM Giovanni Seppia <giovanni.seppia at icann.org<mailto:giovanni.seppia at icann.org><mailto:giovanni.seppia at icann.org><mailto:giovanni.seppia at icann.org>> wrote:

Dear former members of the CCWG-AP,

I would like to inform you that a Grant Program update session<https://icann78.sched.com/event/1T4Ig/icann-grant-program><https://icann78.sched.com/event/1T4Ig/icann-grant-program> is scheduled for tomorrow, 26 Oct at 13:15 local time in Hamburg (11:15 UTC), at ICANN78.

We will provide updates on the status of the program as we progress on the implementation design.

Kind regards,

Giovanni

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