[council] [GNSO-SubProPendingRecs-ST] Point of Order - Sub Pro Pending Recommendations Small Team Work

Tomslin Samme-Nlar mesumbeslin at gmail.com
Tue Oct 24 00:59:35 UTC 2023


Hi all,

Thank you, Anne for pointing this out. I too do not recall any agreement as
to the approach  to tackle the Applicant Support ideas, other than that the
'idea' was floated on Sunday as an option.

I think there is also agreement that all proposals/recommendations from the
Small Team must be approved by the council before they become official
council positions. In fact, during our meeting on Sunday, it was stressed
that this be strictly adhered to, especially now that non-council members
are being invites to form 'Small Team Plus".

I therefore support Anne's request that we avoid socialising this idea of
using implementation guidance and truncating Recommendation 17.2 as the way
forward to address Board's concerns on Applicant support until the council
approves it.

Warmly,
Tomslin

On Mon, 23 Oct 2023, 22:43 Anne ICANN, <anneicanngnso at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Sub Pro Small Team,
>
> Today I heard our Sub Pro Small Team fearless leader Paul announce to the
> GAC that the ideas around Applicant Support that will be developed by the
> "Small Team Plus" will constitute "Implementation Guidance" for the Board.
> Of course in Sub Pro "speak", Implementation Guidance is a term of art that
> means the ideas will not constitute a policy recommendation as contemplated
> by Annex A, Section 9 which speaks of Supplemental Recommendations which
> are policy recommendations.  I commented on this in our Small Team meeting
> on Saturday.  (For clarity, "implementation Guidance" is a defined term in
> the Sub Pro Final Report and it is not obligatory if the Board finds that
> it is impractical.)
>
> Although Paul began to speak about Implementation Guidance in the small
> team meeting on Saturday, I don't recall a consensus being developed on
> this approach.  Perhaps more importantly, it strikes me that the decision
> as to whether the ideas to be put forward in the Supplemental
> Recommendation for Applicant Support will constitute Implementation
> Guidance (and not policy per se) is actually a question for Council and not
> for the Small Team alone to decide as this is in fact a policy matter.
>
> Perhaps Paul (and staff?) are thinking this is the only workable approach
> because of the many ideas that have been put forward.  The thought may be
> that no one idea (or merging of ideas into one consensus Supplemental
> Recommendation)  will be feasible.  Or that this process would take too
> long, if achievable at all?  These are all very real concerns.
>
> However, I do need to raise this Point of Order before the meeting with
> the Board where the Board Statement on Sub Pro Non-Adoption will be
> reviewed.  I believe that in respecting the boundaries of Small Team work,
> we would need authorization from Council to state to the Board that
> suggestions for providing expanded assistance in the realm of Applicant
> Support would constitute mere "Implementation Guidance" rather than actual
> policy Recommendations which are Supplemental in nature pursuant to Annex
> A, Section 9.
>
> Of course it would be easier for the Board to accept a truncated
> Recommendation 17.2 which is not specific  other than to say "expand
> Applicant Support".  Then we could tack on various Implementation Guidance
> ideas which do not actually bind the Board.  However, again I believe that
> if that is to be the approach taken by the Small Team, it should be
> approved in advance by Council.)
>
> As incoming Chair, Greg has already indicated in his presentation to
> Council his concern in relation to transparency of Council small team
> work.  So let's be very careful about this one as we are due to go before
> the Board to discuss the non-adopted items in the pending Sub Pro Final
> Report Recommendations.  Could we please discuss this further in our Closed
> Session?  I do not think the same statement made today to the GAC should be
> repeated before the Board without authorization from Council.
>
> Thank you,
> Anne
>
> Anne Aikman-Scalese
> GNSO Councilor
> NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2024
> anneicanngnso at gmail.com
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