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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks, Philippe, and thanks Janis for the report.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">May I please ask for some clarification on behalf of the BC re this part of 14:3: “<i>In particular, those potential SSAD requestors who are not
part of the ICANN community must have the opportunity to comment and interact with the IRT. This input should help inform the IRT deliberations on this topic”.<o:p></o:p></i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Do we have any practical suggestions about how non-community members could interact with the IRT? We all know how much time and effort any IRT demands
of its members - and of course IRTs are populated by all stakeholders. I’d have thought that by default, anyone who knows that there is such a thing, and how to engage with it, would be within the ICANN community. Who are they aiming to attract, and – concretely
- how? Is the IRT really the best place for non-community participation?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best to both,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Marie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>philippe.fouquart--- via council<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 18 August 2021 10:24<br>
<b>To:</b> council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Janis Karklins <karklinsj@gmail.com>; gnso-secs@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] SSAD ODP liaison report - August 2021<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Councilors,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">A reminder to provide any input you may have on this report and the comment on EPDP Ph2 recommendation 14.3. Please do so by the end of the week.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">If you would like this on an AOB agenda item on Thursday, please let the list know.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">All the best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Philippe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> FOUQUART Philippe INNOV/NET
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 6, 2021 12:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'council@gnso.icann.org' <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Janis Karklins' <<a href="mailto:karklinsj@gmail.com">karklinsj@gmail.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>; 'Caitlin Tubergen' <<a href="mailto:caitlin.tubergen@icann.org">caitlin.tubergen@icann.org</a>>; 'Yuko Green' <<a href="mailto:yuko.green@icann.org">yuko.green@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> SSAD ODP liaison report - August 2021<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Councilors,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Please find the report from our liaison to the SSAD ODP. Thanks for this, Janis.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">In particular note the question raised about recommendation 14.3 and transparency around the SSAD funding and financials aspects, and
the associated response. Comments and feedback are obviously welcome. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Philippe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Janis Karklins [<a href="mailto:karklinsj@gmail.com">mailto:karklinsj@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 6, 2021 7:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> FOUQUART Philippe INNOV/NET <<a href="mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com">philip<span lang="FR">pe.fouquart@orange.com</span></a></span><span lang="FR" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Caitlin Tubergen <<a href="mailto:caitlin.tubergen@icann.org">caitlin.tubergen@icann.org</a>>; Yuko Green <<a href="mailto:yuko.green@icann.org">yuko.green@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">Dear Philippe,</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">Pls see below my next report to the GNSO Council which I submit in my role as the liaison to the SSAD ODP Team.</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">Thank you for circulating it to the Councilors.</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">Best regards</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">JK</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="FR" style="color:black"> </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">Dear Councilors:</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">I am including a short summary of my latest monthly meeting with ICANN org’s SSAD ODP team from 3 August below. </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">I informed the SSAD ODP team about my short presentation during the recent GNSO Council meeting on 22 July. I explained that I provided my responses to ICANN org’s assumptions regarding the EPDP Phase
2 recommendations in advance of the meeting and asked the Council if anyone had questions or concerns. Having heard no concerns, I thanked the Council for its time and committed to provide updates regarding future meetings with the SSAD ODP Team and future
questions regarding ICANN org’s assumptions.</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">The SSAD ODP team informed me that multiple surveys are out for response. Both the survey to Contracted Parties and the </span><span lang="FR"><a href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ssadodpcommunity" target="_blank">survey
to the wider ICANN community</a><span style="color:black"> have an updated deadline of mid-August due to low participation. A separate survey to the </span><a href="https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/odp-ssad/2021-July/000014.html" target="_blank">GAC</a><span style="color:black"> has
a response deadline on 17 September. Because the team is waiting for survey responses during the month of August, the next community webinar date will likely occur in September. </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">Lastly, the SSAD ODP Team identified another question and assumption they wished to discuss with me regarding recommendation 14. The assumption and my response is annexed to this message for your information.
The SSAD ODP Team plans, pending no objection from the GNSO Council, to proceed with its work on the basis of this assumption (and the previously articulated assumptions) and my response thereto. The verified assumptions will be used by the ODP Team as it
works on an assessment to inform the Board’s review of the EPDP Phase 2 policy recommendations.</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">I plan to meet with the SSAD ODP team again in early September and will provide another update at that time.</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">Please let me know if you have any questions. </span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">Best regards</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="FR" style="color:black">JK</span><span lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm"><span style="color:black">Recommendation 14.3 states: “The prospective users of the SSAD, as determined based on the implementation of the accreditation process and Identity Providers to be used, should be consulted on setting usage fees
for the SSAD. In particular, those potential SSAD requestors who are not part of the ICANN community must have the opportunity to comment and interact with the IRT. This input should help inform the IRT deliberations on this topic.” Recommendation 14.4 further
notes that the SSAD should be a self-sustaining system.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm"><span style="color:black">Assumption: ICANN org assumes the high-level financial details related to a self-sustaining SSAD will be shared with the ICANN community for the purposes of transparency, and the overall cost of running the system
will be determined by ICANN org to ensure self-sustainability. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm"><span style="color:black">The fees level may need to be reviewed over time based on acquired experience running the SSAD. Such a review should be evidence based and subject of transparent process of consultations with ICANN stakeholders
and SSAD users outside ICANN community.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span style="color:black">For sake of accuracy: 14.4 states: “The SSAD SHOULD NOT be considered a profit-generating platform for ICANN or the contracted parties.” Notion of self-sustainability does not exclude possibility of profit generation
which goes against the adopted policy.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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