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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks Marie. Agree with your observations, but I think my question was even more basic:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The question I have about the language
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#002060">Acknowledging participation to similar efforts outside of the ICANN Community<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Is whether it means<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Acknowledging in connection with similar efforts outside the ICANN community the work that is being done (or has been done) inside the ICANN community
OR<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Acknowledging within Council the work the Councilor is doing with similar efforts outside the ICANN community.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This may just be a simple question to whoever drafted this language but the intent is not clear to me. I think Sebastien commented that this is about transparency. So now Im wondering which way the acknowledgment
obligation runs. (Again, I dont have anything to acknowledge either way but am simply interested in the obligation being clearly stated.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The points you raise could also impact the commitment not to relitigate matters within the ICANN Community. For example, could comments on the SSAD stating that it is too expensive and wouldnt be used
by the intended user be interpreted as relitigating EPDP Consensus? What if a particular SO or AC voted no on a recommendation and intends to provide direct advice to the Board on that point? Does the obligation not to relitigate mean that a Councilor
cannot support his or her SO or AC in its direct advice to the Board because that would amount to relitigating the issue?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Anne<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Marie Pattullo - AIM <marie.pattullo@aim.be>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 10, 2022 11:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sebastien@registry.godaddy; McGrady, Jr., Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>; Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lewisroca.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: GNSO Council Member Commitments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">Looking forward to talking to the small team soon. Ive just been reading through the document again and I see Annes/Pauls point my role as a BC councillor is to represent the BC in the GNSO;
it doesnt preclude me from advocating on behalf of my (day job) members in any other fora, and of course neither could it. In other words, our role as councillors doesnt supersede our role as employees! If there is an agreement in Council with which either
the BC or my day-job employer disagree, I will of course tell both of them what happened in Council and explain the reasoning, but that absolutely doesnt tie my hands as it were in pursuing the interests/instructions of my (day job) members. I think this
may be open to misinterpretation/ over-reach.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">Marie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> council <<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org">council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sebastien--- via council<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 1 September 2022 18:22<br>
<b>To:</b> McGrady, Jr., Paul D. <<a href="mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com">PMcGrady@taftlaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG">COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] GNSO Council Member Commitments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Anne, thank you for your question and welcome to the GNSO,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">The idea is not to preclude anyone from doing anything, but to promote disclosure for transparencys sake.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">In your example, as ICANN does not concern itself with content censorship (bar the agreed types of DNS Abuse), work on the topic in other forums should have no impact on ICANNs work. I would
not warrant any sort of disclosure.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">On the contrary on a topic that is more core to ICANN, like the processing of personal data, I would want to encourage that transparency. This is not to say that one cant be in disagreement with
the consensus and voice it in the community or outside, as long as it is done acknowledging and respecting the existing consensus; but I think that should one actively pursuing competing policy efforts elsewhere, it should be acknowledged.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">This said, I do understand that acting as counsel, one is not always either representing the same interest or able to disclose who they represent, and I respect it I believe separate work on
the SOI is attempting to clarify this aspect.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">I hope this helps,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">Kindly<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#444444">Sebastien Ducos</span></b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#444444"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">McGrady, Jr., Paul D. <<a href="mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com">PMcGrady@taftlaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 30 August 2022 at 2:05 pm<br>
<b>To: </b>Sebastien Ducos <<a href="mailto:Sebastien@registry.godaddy">Sebastien@registry.godaddy</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG">COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG</a> <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>>, Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lewisroca.com">AAikman@lewisroca.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: GNSO Council Member Commitments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thanks Seb.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Inbound NomCom appointed Councilor, Anne Aikman-Scalese, raised concerns about the vagueness of the following phrase Acknowledging participation to similar efforts outside of the ICANN Community.
What do we think this means? I think it means that while we should support consensus where it landed within ICANN, that doesnt mean that we cant press on the same subject in other forum. For example, if the current consensus that ICANN is not to be in
the content censorship business holds, that does not preclude a Councilor from complaining to the FTC that someone is using content to defraud end users. Is that what everyone else thinks this phrase means? If not, maybe we can have some alternative theories
on the list or in the document.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Paul</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 30, 2022 5:08 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">Sincere apologies Stephanie.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">It is of course to you and not to Nathalie, that I meant to address this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 30 August 2022 at 10:33 am<br>
<b>To: </b></span><span lang="EN-AU"><a href="mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG</span></a></span><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <</span><span lang="EN-AU"><a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">council@gnso.icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">Hello Nathalie, Marie and Paul,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you for volunteering to assist with the GNSO Council Member Commitments last week.<br>
The Google Doc we put up following ICANN 74 is still accessible here: </span><span lang="EN-AU"><a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1rmft4PPLzFB0rE9IWEi86eMZYrlgDaXT%2Fedit&data=05%7C01%7Csebastien%40registry.godaddy%7C5b29d96a2c6642b9bda108da8a7fe4ac%7Cd5f1622b14a345a6b069003f8dc4851f%7C0%7C0%7C637974579175330205%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=UnspMK1nLYUGymI6goIuM15KtoHUnUg29dy6GOoTO3M%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmft4PPLzFB0rE9IWEi86eMZYrlgDaXT/edit</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">Ill let you take a first stab at it for a week until 6 September COB.<br>
Depending on the level of rewrite then, we might organise a call to sort it out or do it via email.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">All other Councillors are of course invited to participate, the document is open.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">Kindly,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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