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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Councilors,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The link to the draft response is below in Jeff’s email forwarded by Anne, but also here for your convenience:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The Word is also attached.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">"Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <AAikman@lewisroca.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, November 28, 2022 at 7:46 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG" <council@gnso.icann.org><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Ext] FW: [gnso-chairs] Update on SubPro ODP and Policy Question Set #6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please see below from Jeff. He says my changes have been incorporated into the Council’s Response to Question Set # 6. STEVE – could you please post the final Google link and a Word doc to the Council list
for final “non-objection” approval by Council members? (I understand Leadership will determine the deadline for non-objection.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Anne<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 28, 2022 8:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lewisroca.com>; Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org>; Sebastien@registry.godaddy; dibiase@amazon.com; john.mcelwaine@nelsonmullins.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [gnso-chairs] Update on SubPro ODP and Policy Question Set #6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">[Removed the Council as that is beyond my posting privileges as the liaison]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks Anne. These have now been incorporated into the
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/18C6Vulnv6V0Akyq3IeehWuSGg1TAHCYJEBGXHrAVRx8/edit__;!!PtGJab4!5iVN_MStgHJ-1NyYYmvtZhAZfqymhxPeujmFxTdN9Adxsx7CkEXjSYGcgnxbwHBzDL_9lCOL6I1RNj3mIlEV_4Cl$">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Council Leadership – How long should we keep this open for comment so that I can submit it to ICANN’s ODP Team?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Jeff<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#06175F">Jeffrey J. Neuman</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lewisroca.com">AAikman@lewisroca.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 23, 2022 3:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Steve Chan <<a href="mailto:steve.chan@icann.org">steve.chan@icann.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:Sebastien@registry.godaddy">Sebastien@registry.godaddy</a>; <a href="mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG">
COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG</a>; <a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>; GNSO-Chairs <<a href="mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org">gnso-chairs@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com">jeff@jjnsolutions.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [gnso-chairs] Update on SubPro ODP and Policy Question Set #6<br>
<b>Importance:</b> High<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks Steve and Jeff, for the drafting and the further explanation. As an active participant on Sub Pro and given that the small team will not be convened for this Council response to Question Set #6, I
have some suggested changes for consideration by the full Council which I believe are important procedurally. Those changes are shown in purple in the attached document and pasted again below. I summarize the reasons for the changes here:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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the Sub Pro Final Report) and should consult with the IRT regarding appropriate alternatives.
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The Org’s question regarding Recommendation 17.12 in relation to the Applicant Support program presents a special case due to the initiation of the GNSO
Guidance Process on Applicant Support. I think we need to say that in that case, variations to Implementation Guidance should be the subject of consultations with the Applicant Support Guidance Team.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">In cases where the IRT is not yet formed and no GNSO Guidance Process (or other process outlined in the GNSO Operating Procedures) has been initiated,
org should specify the reasons for recommending a variation to the Implementation Guidance and should seek the opinion of Council, e.g. via the procedures applicable to the GNSO Input process. (Presumably the last case could theoretically happen after Board
review of the Operational Design Assessment.)<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I believe the changes below and in the attached draft preserve the appropriate role for Council in connection with Implementation as provided in the PDP Manual and in the GNSO Guidance Process. This will
be particularly important in relation to the development of the Applicant Support program as the Guidance Process proceeds.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The recommended changes are pasted below and shown in the attached draft. It is good to know (as Steve said yesterday) that there would not be any sort of “hold-up” in the expected date for the org’s delivery
of the Operational Design Assessment based on the requested response to Question Set #6. This is an important topic and may require discussion at the Council level in our December meeting. (Thank you, Jeff, for offering to review this in December.)
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">If required, I am noting a formal objection to the initial draft without the suggested changes. (Jeff said this doesn’t go on the Council’s agenda unless a Councilor objects so I am trying to follow the rules.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">AEAS Proposed Changes to the Response to Sub Pro ODP Question Set #6<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:red">The Council agrees with your understanding that
</span><span style="color:#7030A0">“if something cannot be implemented exactly as specified in Implementation Guidance, the org would be expected to describe its efforts and rationale for such cases, and to work with the IRT to implement an alternative in line
with the purpose behind the recommended action”</span>. <i><span style="color:red"> </span></i><span style="color:#7030A0">In relation to the GNSO Initiated Applicant Support Guidance Process that has been launched in response to the question posed by the
ODP, the Council believes that alternatives to the specified Implementation Guidance should be addressed in the context of that GNSO Guidance Process and would expect the org to work with the Applicant Support Guidance Team to address any required changes
to Implementation Guidance.</span><i><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7030A0"><o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#7030A0">In short, </span><span style="color:red">implementation guidance remains a strong recommendation as opposed to a requirement.
</span><span style="color:#7030A0">As referenced in the Preamble to the Sub Pro Final Report,</span><span style="color:red"> ICANN should</span><span style="color:#7030A0"> specify any “circumstances where there may be valid reasons not to take such guidance
exactly as described…” In such circumstances, Council believes that consultation with the IRT, the Guidance Process Team, or the Council itself (e.g. via a request for GNSO Input) is in order prior to the adoption of alternatives to the specified Implementation
Guidance. </span><span style="color:red"> </span><span style="color:#7030A0">In all cases, the
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</span><span style="color:#7030A0">should be accomplished</span><span style="color:red"> in a manner that achieves the objectives laid out in the implementation guidance even if the mechanism of implementation differs slightly from that contained in the final
report.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Anne<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Steve Chan <<a href="mailto:steve.chan@icann.org">steve.chan@icann.org</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 22, 2022 2:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lewisroca.com">AAikman@lewisroca.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:Sebastien@registry.godaddy">Sebastien@registry.godaddy</a>; <a href="mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG">
COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG</a>; <a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>; GNSO-Chairs <<a href="mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org">gnso-chairs@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com">jeff@jjnsolutions.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-chairs] Update on SubPro ODP and Policy Question Set #6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Anne, I see your response came in before I completed this response. Just noting that I’ve seen it already, but think the response below should still hopefully be helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Anne,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Let me try and answer your question. The SubPro ODP Team has an understanding of how implementation guidance should be treated, which in their words is, “a strongly recommended action and that if in some circumstances
there may be valid reasons not to take such guidance exactly as described, this would remain consistent with the Final Report.” This understanding comes from the Final Report preamble and was reinforced by previous ODP question/answers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">There is specific phrasing for a handful of recommendations where the SubPro ODP Team wants to validate that their understanding of implementation guidance, pasted above, still holds true. The reason they
are asking is because the recommendation language (i.e., “must”) cites the implementation guidance in the recommendation language itself, potentially creating a relationship requirement between the recommendation and embedded implementation guidance. I’ve
highlighted an example of the language that is causing the potential ambiguity, where it can be construed that the implementation guidance in these specific instances, must be fulfilled precisely
<b>“as detailed”</b> in order to meet the requirements of the recommendation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Recommendation 17.12: ICANN org must develop a plan for funding the Applicant Support Program<b>, as detailed in the Implementation Guidelines below</b>.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Here is a link to Jeff’s draft responses, where you can see that he validates the SubPro ODP Team understanding of implementation guidance, which holds for these specific recommendations:
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/18C6Vulnv6V0Akyq3IeehWuSGg1TAHCYJEBGXHrAVRx8/edit?pli=1__;!!PtGJab4!5iVN_MStgHJ-1NyYYmvtZhAZfqymhxPeujmFxTdN9Adxsx7CkEXjSYGcgnxbwHBzDL_9lCOL6I1RNj3mIs331V6z$">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18C6Vulnv6V0Akyq3IeehWuSGg1TAHCYJEBGXHrAVRx8/edit?pli=1 [docs.google.com]</a>. As requested, the draft responses are attached in Word.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hopefully this provides a bit of clarity and I certainly welcome Jeff, as well as Councilors, to weigh in.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Gnso-chairs <<a href="mailto:gnso-chairs-bounces@icann.org">gnso-chairs-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of "Aikman-Scalese, Anne
via Gnso-chairs" <<a href="mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org">gnso-chairs@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lewisroca.com">AAikman@lewisroca.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 9:04 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:Sebastien@registry.godaddy">Sebastien@registry.godaddy</a>" <<a href="mailto:Sebastien@registry.godaddy">Sebastien@registry.godaddy</a>>, "<a href="mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG">COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG</a>" <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>>, GNSO-Chairs <<a href="mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org">gnso-chairs@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com">jeff@jjnsolutions.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-chairs] Update on SubPro ODP and Policy Question Set #6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks Sebastien. JEFF – I am a bit confused by the examples presented in Question Set 6 from the Sub Pro ODP team. The examples are all labelled “Recommendation” and all include the word “must” which has
a defined meaning in the Sub Pro Final Report. The Implementation Guidance does not generally include the word “must”. That word was used consistently in connection with Recommendations and Question Set 6 appears to be reciting “must” Recommendations but
treating them as Implementation Guidance. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Could you please clarify the question being asked in Question Set 6? (I have previously volunteered to join that Sub Pro small team.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Anne<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sebastien--- via council<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 12, 2022 3:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG">COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG</a>; <a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">
gnso-secs@icann.org</a>; GNSO-Chairs <<a href="mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org">gnso-chairs@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [council] FW: Update on SubPro ODP and Policy Question Set #6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Council Colleagues,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">Please find below our Council Liaison to the SubPro ODP’s latest updates.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you Jeff for providing these. Please review them ahead of our meeting on 17 November (or 16 depending on time zones).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt">Kindly,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 10 November 2022 at 10:30 pm<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Update on SubPro ODP and Policy Question Set #6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Council Leadership,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Can you please post this on the GNSO Council List?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This afternoon I had my November call with the ICANN Org SubPro Team led by Karen Lentz. Here is the latest update:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On Schedule</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">. During that call, ICANN org confirmed that they are in fact on schedule to deliver the Operational
Design Assessment the week of December 12<sup>th</sup>. The team met its deadline for “pens down” which was yesterday and the document is undergoing internal review. In addition, they are working on an executive summary.
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">GNSO Council Briefing on ODA.</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> The ICANN org ODP team would like to set up a call with the Council the week
of December 5<sup>th</sup> to give the Council a preview of the assessment like they did for the SSAD ODA. They will also go over their expectations on timing, and an input mechanism for feedback on the ODA. Like the SSAD ODA, there will not be a formal
public comment period, but there may be opportunities for Q&A and potentially providing our own input to the Board.
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Community Webinar on ODA.</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> After the ODA is released the week of the 12<sup>th</sup>, ICANN is planning
on conducting a webinar for the community to discuss the assessment. It will be open to anyone interested in the program.
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Final (?) Question Set.</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> The ICANN SubPro ODP Team has posted an additional question that they would like
us to respond to regarding the role of Implementation Guidance where a Recommendation incorporates by reference such Implementation guidance. They have confirmed that the ODA release is not dependent on the timing of our response to Question Set 6 provided
that their view in that question is consistent with ours (which I believe is). I have copied the question and am working on a proposed response in the following Google Document.
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Council SPS Planning.</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> We discussed other activities that will need to occur after the ODA is delivered
to the Board including the commencement of two (2) IRPs once the ICANN Board approves the recommendations. The Final Report Recommendations include one IRT for Applicant Support and a second IRT for everything else. We believe it is a good idea to discuss
this at the Council SPS in December which involves a discussion of the work in the coming year for the Council.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please let me know if you have any questions or you would like me to go over any of this as AOB during the Council meeting on the 17<sup>th</sup>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Jeffrey J. Neuman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Michael Karakash <<a href="mailto:michael.karakash@icann.org">michael.karakash@icann.org</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 10, 2022 2:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com">jeff@jjnsolutions.com</a>>; SubPro ODP Mailman List <<a href="mailto:subpro-odp@icann.org">subpro-odp@icann.org</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Jeff,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">It was great connecting on today’s call to discuss the latest ODP-related developments. As noted, we recently drafted a new Policy Question Set (#6) focused on the topic of Implementation Guidance that I am
attaching to this email.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please don’t hesitate to reach out if you have questions or need any clarification.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Michael <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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