<div dir="ltr">Thanks Susan. One edit for Item 9 - Agree with Susan's suggestion with one slight change - change "herself and Susan Payne" to "she and Susan Payne".<div>Thank you!</div><div>Anne</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Anne Aikman-Scalese</div>GNSO Councilor<div>NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2024</div><div><a href="mailto:anneicanngnso@gmail.com" target="_blank">anneicanngnso@gmail.com</a></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 10:16 AM Susan Payne via council <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-7870116030419492076">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Hi Devan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Thanks for circulating the draft Minutes. I had a few suggested amendments for consideration:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt">Title</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt">: this should be 20 July, not June please<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:8pt;background:white"><b><u><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black;background:white">Item 4: COUNCIL DISCUSSION - Accuracy</span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background:white"><u></u><u></u></span></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Para 4: I think in Kurt’s first intervention, he suggested that the first task of the small team should be to consider whether to issue such a response or not, having consulted some
of those with expertise. Perhaps we could amend to something along the following lines:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt">Kurt Pritz, RySG, </span></b><span style="font-size:11pt">asked to pause and consider unintended consequences of such a communication
<u>before proceeding to drafting. Suggested that the first task for the small team should be to consider this, and to consult some of</u> those who have experience working in the arena.<b>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Para 8:
</span><b><span style="font-size:11pt">Jeffrey Neuman, GNSO </span></b><span style="font-size:11pt">Liaison to the GAC, shared that the European Commission is a member of the GAC, and if Council goes around the GAC it may imply that GNSO Council is going
outside of the system around the GAC, <u>and could be perceived (unintentionally) as the GNSO criticising the EC GAC Rep</u>. He suggested communicating with the governments via GAC and potentially the Board.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11pt">Item 8: IDNs<u></u><u></u></span></u></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I think that the minutes need some expansion, particularly reflecting the fuller response from Donna to my question, since this gives a significantly different impression of what the chair of this WG said.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:8pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">Para 2:
<b><span style="background:white">Susan Payne, IPC, </span></b><span style="background:white">thanked the IDNs EPDP group for their work and appreciates the timeline will be shorter than originally anticipated. She asked
why Phase 2 items are dependencies <u>for the next round</u> as <u>most</u> of them appear to apply to both future Top-Level Domains (TLDs) and existing TLDs.
<u>As such, isn’t this just like any other policy change that applies to all TLDs, where some existing TLDs will have to change what they do to comply with the new policy?</u></span></span><u><span style="font-size:11pt;background:white"><u></u><u></u></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:8pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black;background:white">Para 3:</span><b><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black;background:white"> Donna Austin, IDNs
EPDP Chair, </span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black;background:white">thanked Susan Payne, IPC, for her question and explained that initially, the IDNs EPDP charter was split into two phases because the team considered Phase
1 to be the priority work regarding SubPro. Regarding Phase 2, <u>this is a trickier question. The second level issues are consensus policy and going to impact everyone, not just new applicants, but what is trying to be addressed is to have
</u><s>it would be ideal if</s> any new requirements <s>can be</s> captured within the application itself or
<u>made</u> a requirement for a new registry operator<u>.</u></span><u><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black"> It probably makes sense that the applicant guidebook is as complete as it can be so that those second-level issues are captured as well. But I
take your point that the phase two stuff is going to impact every registry operator that is operating an IDN. I don't have an argument one way or the other.</span></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(153,0,255);background:white"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11pt">Item 9: AOB<u></u><u></u></span></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I think it would be helpful to number the item from Anne Aikman-Scalese “9.3 – Other” since it is a different topic, not Closed Generics.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:8pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black">Regarding the text:
</span><b><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black;background:white">Anne Aikman-Scalese, NCA,</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(153,0,255);background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black;background:white">shared that herself and Susan Payne, IPC,
<u>in their capacities as SubPro IRT Liaisons</u>, anticipate bringing a discussion
<u>to the next Council meeting</u> <s>regarding their roles in the SubPro IRT</s> with respect to forming a small team in relation to the Standing Predictability Implementation Review Team (SPIRT) charter
<s>to the next Council meeting</s>.</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background:white"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Devan Reed via council<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 27, 2023 2:15 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [council] Draft minutes of the Minutes of the GNSO Council Meeting 20 July 2023<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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