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<p>But it is an exception, at least for the time being. Can we be on
the same page that it is an exception? <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22 Oct 2023 10:56, Susan Payne
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Absolutely
Thomas, it is not just a simple question of “let them have
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Thomas Rickert | rickert.law via
council<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 22, 2023 10:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mark Datysgeld
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com"><mark@governanceprimer.com></a>;
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] Further on dot québec<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Thanks for your analysis, Mark.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">I may have missed this, but has there been any
discussion around grandfathering or bundles of SLDs under
both TLDs that would help avoid confusion of an identical
second level domain under both TLDs?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Thomas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="DE">Von:
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lang="DE">council <<a
href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</a>>
im Auftrag von Mark Datysgeld via council <<a
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<b>Antworten an: </b>Mark Datysgeld <<a
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moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">mark@governanceprimer.com</a>><br>
<b>Datum: </b>Sonntag, 22. Oktober 2023 um 10:17<br>
<b>An: </b>"<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"
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<b>Betreff: </b>[council] Further on dot québec<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="DE">I have been studying the Latin Script Root
Zone Label Generation Rules [<a
href="https://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/lgr/proposal-japanese-lgr-20dec21-en.xml"
moz-do-not-send="true">here</a>] and, for practical
purposes, (U+0065) vs. é (U+00E9) are not variants. The
variants for lower case Latin letter "e" are listed under
"Variant Set 3" and consist of one homoglyph (forward and
reverse mapping) and one out-of-repertoire (reflexive)
instance, both which do not apply here. Also, é (U+00E9) is
recognized as part of the French language in the document,
so linguistic relevance is recognized there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="DE">Potential for malice also does not come up as
a significant concern in the LGR, as opposed to something
like dotted i (U+0069) vs. dotless i (U+0131), for example.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="DE">That said, considering that we are dealing
with a geoTLD, linguistic and cultural relevance are
important aspects, and looking into the writing of the word
"Québec" on the Web, both the the "e" and "é" cases seem to
be widely employed, in such a way that they are
interchangeable in a way. If these TLDs were to be managed
independently, that would almost certainly lead to
confusion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="DE">However, the requestor of the accented TLD is
the same as that of the ASCII TLD, which is PointQuébec, so
we are looking into a "same entity" situation. If
PointQuébec were to run both TLDs as if they were the same
(as if they were variants), meaning that domain names would
resolve consistently instead of being operated
independently, this would allow the people of Québec the
linguistic freedom to utilize their language while at the
same time avoiding confusion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="DE">Since, as Seb pointed out, this is the only
applicant from the first round reaching out to have this
issue resolved, it does not seem to be out of scope to
simply recognize their request, and allow them to operate
the TLDs in this way, more than anything because there seems
to be no good reason not to. We would just need to be very
clear about the necessity of both TLDs operating in this
consistent manner.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="DE">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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