[CPWG] [GTLD-WG] [SPAM] Re: [registration-issues-wg] ALAC Statement regarding EPDP

[Tijani BEN JEMAA]

@ Roberto, + 10000000000
@ Jonathan: this is exactly what I said: never speak about security against privacy or the other way. I never said we should give preference to privacy over security.

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Tijani BEN JEMAA
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Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)
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> Le 7 août 2018 à 07:23, Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com <mailto:roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>> a écrit :
> 
> +1
> 
> If we had a definite supremacy of one over the other (security vs privacy or vice-versa) the problem would be easy to solve.
> The complication is exactly in the need to strike a balance between the two.
> R
> 
> 
>> On 07.08.2018, at 04:02, Evan Leibovitch <evanleibovitch at gmail.com <mailto:evanleibovitch at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Marita wrote:
>> 
>> *Perhaps it is *
>> *unintentional, but the language does send the message that we are *
>> *looking more carefully at security than privacy. I am also not
>> convinced **that
>> end-users would want us to do that.*
>> 
>> 
>> I
>> , OTOH, am significantly
>> more convinced of that
>> ; I
>> ask
>> for
>> evidence
>> to back up the claim that those we try to speak for value privacy over
>> security
>> .
>> 
>> What we do
>> have
>> , from the massive successes of FANG
>> and their spawn
>> ... not to mention the explicitly invasive home devices that they
>> deploy
>> ...
>> is compelling
>> evidence of the LOW value given to privacy in the pursuit of other things.
>> Add to that the pervasiveness of CCTV, license plate scanners and facial
>> recognition in democracies where such surveillance is simply not a
>> political
>> controvery
>> (including the countries that gave us the GDPR).
>> 
>> We have within this community privacy advocates
>> , and that is important. But just as important is that
>> we also have
>> people on the front lines of the battle against internet scammers, malware
>> spreaders and other bad actors who abuse privacy in pursuit of real harm.
>> Uniquely within ICANN
>> ,
>> At-Large seeks the necessary balance between privacy and accountability
>> that seems so lacking elswhere
>> .
>> 
>> So I will disagree with Marita that ALAC's long-standing interest to strike
>> this balance is against the interest of the global Internet end users we
>> are charged with advancing. While the need for privacy advocates
>> (and what they advocate)
>> is critical, it is a significant error to assert that the global public of
>> today values privacy over security.
>> What ought to be does not necessarily match what is.
>> 
>> - Evan
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