[CPWG] [GTLD-WG] [registration-issues-wg] gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP Questions --- where are the answers?

Wed Aug 22 05:37:41 UTC 2018

Hi Jonathan

With apologies to Evin but I can't handle that large spreadsheet, similarly
with the huge blocks of info on the wiki

I prefer the simpler version of the google doc that Justine has produced
because each section is ordered with all its relevant information together
.

And I can actually see the section that I want to make a comment on.

But as you say, whatever way people want to participate. And we aren't
getting much in the way of inputs. Sad really.

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 3:54 PM, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>
wrote:

> And of course what I've been doing is updating the google spreadsheet that
> Evin created, copying in the names of the drafters that volunteered and
> notes on any resolutions we reached on what we wanted to say. I guess I
> haven't been doing a good enough job of managing this since everyone is
> going a separate way. I too don't really care how the comments come at this
> point. I just want to see the drafters drafting but drafting based on what
> we DECIDED on the call, not just what you personally believe. This is
> REALLY important. I should have the google spreadsheet updated with
> everything from Justine's doc shortly. Again, if it's too difficult to use,
> we can do something else or I can continue to try and corral it.
>
> For your records, here’s the spreadsheet that Evin created:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1agNhbXfXLPQIRTGjC-8U-
> l534SWpbnsiapi-fi5mzFw/edit#gid=1149441360
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GTLD-WG <gtld-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> On Behalf Of
> Justine Chew
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 9:10 PM
> To: cpwg at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [GTLD-WG] [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] gTLD Subsequent
> Procedures PDP Questions --- where are the answers?
>
> Dear all,
>
> I have duly posted on the designated wiki page and will continue to do the
> same, where feasible.
>
> At the same time, as Marita and Maureen indicated, I have a Google Doc (a
> *word doc*, not spreadsheet) to track all comments posted either by email
> or on the wiki (and the original spreadsheet as far as I could establish))
> (ps.
> Yes, Maureen, it incorporates whatever email responses/threads which have
> come to my attention and which I interpret as falling under a certain
> section)
>
> If folks prefer to use the wiki, then by all means do so. See:
> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=88573813
>
> If folks prefer to use a Google Doc then by all means do so on mine (link
> is here <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rlGb86PXT50tYN33WHtwi94trFpoA
> oB6r63O_v6ATn0/edit?ts=5b7c758e#heading=h.xb0j1y6yfw28>,
> suggest mode on). And if there's a section which you see on the  Annex C –
> Table of Preliminary Recommendations, Options and Questions for Community
> Input <https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/new-gtlds/subsequent-
> procedures-initial-annex-c-02jul18-en.pdf>
> which
> you don't find on this Google Doc, it would be because I gathered from
> CPWG calls that we don't think comment is needed on those. If you feel
> otherwise, please get in touch with me and I can include a missing section
> onto this Google Doc.
>
> What I really care about is that we get more input.
>
> Regards,
>
> Justine Chew
> -----
>
>
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 09:06, Holly Raiche <h.raiche at internode.on.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Agree Maureen - which is why I suggested that there is one please for
> > all comments on the wiki - BUT THEN under that one heading - separate
> > pages, one for each topic that we agreed we’d respond to.
> >
> > Yes, it’s big, but we need to make it easy for everyone to comment
> >
> > H
> > On 22 Aug 2018, at 10:51 am, Maureen Hilyard
> > <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately the wiki does not allow you to specify what you are
> > actually commenting on.. when you have a big block of text. Unless you
> > specify the actual recommendation you are referring to, among the
> > thousands that they have.
> >
> > Whereas the google doc is organised into the proper sections with
> > their related recommendations. And you only have to scroll down.
> >
> > It also allows you to enter comments that are specific to the text. or
> > to write in the space given.
> >
> > Also, I presume Justine has added emails that relate to specific
> > topics, to the relevant sections of  the google doc.
> >
> > Marita and i have responded on this doc which for me is easier because
> > you can see clearly which sections I feel I can respond to.
> >
> > But we need more input by others. I am expecting RALO leaders as well
> > as ALAC and other ALS and individual members to participate in this
> activity.
> >
> > This is a biggie for us, yet it is exactly the same community response
> > we had when we first had to provide a comment on this activity, and I
> > was only able to get one person per section  to help out.
> >
> > Pitiful.
> >
> > M
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Holly Raiche
> > <h.raiche at internode.on.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I agree with Olivier - we need a good management of this issue.
> >>
> >> My preference (as usual) is that all comments should be in one place.
> >> And my vote is for the wiki - since it is something we are all
> >> familiar with and already part of the ICANN website.  And it may be
> >> an idea to split the SubPro questions into different wiki pages since
> >> each topic includes several questions by the SubPro group and it
> >> means less scrolling to come to a topic.  My suggestion would be to
> >> have all comments on the wiki, with a page listing each of the issues
> >> raised that we are commenting on, so people can just click on the
> issue(s) they want to contribute to.
> >>
> >> Holly
> >> On 22 Aug 2018, at 2:58 am, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I am reading the comments/questions sent by each of the volunteers
> >> for each section, especially all the ones which Justine has sent out
> >> -- on
> >> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=88573813
> >>
> >> There are so many questions per section, I find it really difficult
> >> to respond to them. I also responded to some of the same questions on
> >> the Google Doc on
> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1agNhbXfXLPQIRTGjC-8U-l534SWpb
> >> nsiapi-fi5mzFw/edit?usp=sharing but I found that full spreadsheet way
> >> too overwhelming which is the reason why I do not think many people
> >> contributed.
> >>
> >> We need to find a solution to this problem quickly.
> >>
> >> 1. do we create a separate WIKI page for each sub-section, with all
> >> the questions for each section? Or 2. do we create a survey for each
> >> sub-section, so people can answer the questions simply and the
> >> collated responses would be easily accessed by the penholders? Or 3.
> >> do we create a separate Google Doc for each sub-section and people
> >> can comment on it? Or 4. do we use something else, another tool,
> >> another way to collect responses?
> >>
> >> Or do we get each penholder to write a proposed text and then get a
> >> vote going to find out the support for each of the responses given in
> >> the draft by the penholder?
> >>
> >> I am asking this because time is ticking and I am *very* concerned
> >> about the lack of progress at this stage to get a coordinated
> >> response out. So we need to think creatively and we need to think fast.
> >>
> >> Kindest regards,
> >>
> >> Olivier
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