[CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] [GTLD-WG] Discussion: End-users definition from At-large perspective

[Tijani BEN JEMAA]

Absolutely Alan.
And that’s why our conclusion of the discussion I initiated on that matter at the ALAC level was that we should avoid having people with responsibility on 2 groups simultaneously. But unfortunately, this wasn’t implemented.


> Le 10 août 2019 à 23:59, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> a écrit :
> 
> Tijani, there is a difference between being a member and "influencing decisions", we should not conflate them, We could allow multiple membership with the proviso that you cannot vote in multiple groups. That is how other parts of ICANN have addressed this.
> 
> Or we could outlaw multiple memberships. To do that, and at exactly what level do we make the distinction, is something that we could do as we embark on a revision of membership rules for both ALSes and unaffiliated members.
> 
> Alan
> 
> At 10/08/2019 12:52 PM, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:
>> Olivier,
>> Why don’t you say that the others are trying to influence our decision and have more influence?
>> With the Empowered Community, its 5 components have one vote each, and influencing the decision in 2 of them by the same person is just unfair.
>> But you have to explain me how this may drag us in stupid turf wars. Divide and conquer to waste out times???????? 
>> For your information, I’m one of those who have always tried to build trust with the other constituencies.
>> 
>> Tijani
>> 
>>> Le 10 août 2019 à 12:05, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com <mailto:ocl at gih.com>> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> Dear Tijani,
>>> 
>>> On 09/08/2019 09:57, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:
>>>> On the other hand, a lot of our members are also NCUC members, what I raised in the past explaining that this is not fair because they influence the decision making from 2 entries.I asked that at least, someone with a position in one of the 2 constituencies (ALAC and NCUC) can’t be at the same time a member of the other constituency. But I wasn’t heard.
>>> 
>>> I must admit that I have real trouble understanding your position. It appears that you are not happy that our members have more influence in ICANN because they are able to contribute in more than one constituency? I would have thought that having more influence is exactly what we would like end users to have.
>>> Or perhaps we'd like less influence and be dragged in stupid turf wars. Divide and conquer to waste out times.
>>> Kindest regards,
>>> 
>>> Olivier
>> 
>> Tijani BEN JEMAA
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>> 
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