[CPWG] [GTLD-WG] [registration-issues-wg] Next steps in the evolving MS model

Mon Jun 17 20:24:15 UTC 2019

It's a bit difficult to create a model without some form of structure. Or
is it their structures that are important? What about what is important to
At-Large? So where does the "multi-stakeholder" bit fit in?

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 8:14 AM Eduardo Diaz, <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Isn't structural issues part of the MS model?
>
> -ed
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 2:36 PM Greg Shatan <greg at isoc-ny.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> I heard today that ICANN org would like “structural” issues to be off the
>> table — whether it’s the distribution of board seats, or NomCom seats, or
>> the place for ALAC within PDP Working Groups.  Anyone who followed the GNSO
>> review will recall that they tried to take structure off the table there,
>> too, only to be met with a groundswell of concerns.
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 5:13 PM Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That makes sense to me Greg
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 03:07 Greg Shatan <greg at isoc-ny.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We will probably want to cover all of the categories, but decide which
>>>> topics we want to prioritize under each category.
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 9:34 AM Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Justine. In response to your request for a short list, it is going
>>>>> to be hard to rule any of them out. Don't see how we can decide not to
>>>>> engage in the cultural issues or the participation issues or the roles and
>>>>> responsibilities issues. Possibly we might take more of a back seat on some
>>>>> of the process, prioritization issues. But I am not sure about that either.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am having trouble imagining everyone jumping up to volunteer for
>>>>> everything -- given the stretched resources of volunteer groups. It will be
>>>>> another diversion of scarce resources and the rest of the work doesn't
>>>>> stop. But, everyone is also intensely aware that, if they are not at
>>>>> that table, the discussion will go on without them.  Since trust is an
>>>>> issue, who is going to trust another constituency to resolve the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, it is going to be tricky. I don't have a sense about how that
>>>>> discussion will flow.  Some advance discussion on our part and
>>>>> vigilance will be important -- perhaps a bit of a caucus at the meeting
>>>>> itself so decisions can be made on the fly. Any info on how other
>>>>> groups plan to handle this would also be useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Committing any group to take on an issue has to be agreed -- so I
>>>>> doesn't seem possible for this process to happen in one meeting -- people
>>>>> haven't actually seen the whole issue list Brian is going to present.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marita
>>>>> On 6/15/2019 11:00 PM, Justine Chew wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Marita,
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please provide a short list of issues which you think
>>>>> At-Large cannot afford not to have an influence in?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Justine
>>>>> -----
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 07:37, Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's
>>>>>> webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was
>>>>>> expecting from us next:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Map issues to owners
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or approach
>>>>>> to resolving the issue
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification
>>>>>> part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh,
>>>>>> Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g.
>>>>>> who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for
>>>>>> resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to
>>>>>> be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we
>>>>>> want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and
>>>>>> shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of
>>>>>> the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might
>>>>>> hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say
>>>>>> that he was aware of the problem and that  participants would get lots of
>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which
>>>>>> issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our
>>>>>> fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate
>>>>>> our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a
>>>>>> united point of view
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it is
>>>>>> certain to be a long haul.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marita
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