[CPWG] [GTLD-WG] [registration-issues-wg] Next steps in the evolving MS model

Tue Jun 18 05:55:38 UTC 2019

So, do we attend the ICANN65 HIT: Future of the Multistakeholder Model of
Governance session on 25th June and take our cues from there?

https://65.schedule.icann.org/meetings/1058185

Justine
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On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 at 10:05, Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net> wrote:

> Well, this was actually predicted and so our statement says the following
> about structural changes:
>
> "We realize that entering into a discussion that would bring about these
> kinds of changes may be beyond the scope of the current process but this
> process should recommend that such discussions need to take place and
> suggest a way forward. At some point, the structure of ICANN itself and how
> that structure now
> stands in the way of a really effective and efficient multistakeholder
> model must be addressed."
>
> Marita
> On 6/17/2019 2:35 PM, Greg Shatan wrote:
>
>
> I heard today that ICANN org would like “structural” issues to be off the
> table — whether it’s the distribution of board seats, or NomCom seats, or
> the place for ALAC within PDP Working Groups.  Anyone who followed the GNSO
> review will recall that they tried to take structure off the table there,
> too, only to be met with a groundswell of concerns.
>
>
> Greg
>
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 5:13 PM Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> That makes sense to me Greg
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 03:07 Greg Shatan <greg at isoc-ny.org> wrote:
>>
>>> We will probably want to cover all of the categories, but decide which
>>> topics we want to prioritize under each category.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 9:34 AM Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Justine. In response to your request for a short list, it is going
>>>> to be hard to rule any of them out. Don't see how we can decide not to
>>>> engage in the cultural issues or the participation issues or the roles and
>>>> responsibilities issues. Possibly we might take more of a back seat on some
>>>> of the process, prioritization issues. But I am not sure about that either.
>>>>
>>>> I am having trouble imagining everyone jumping up to volunteer for
>>>> everything -- given the stretched resources of volunteer groups. It will be
>>>> another diversion of scarce resources and the rest of the work doesn't
>>>> stop. But, everyone is also intensely aware that, if they are not at
>>>> that table, the discussion will go on without them.  Since trust is an
>>>> issue, who is going to trust another constituency to resolve the problem.
>>>>
>>>> So, it is going to be tricky. I don't have a sense about how that
>>>> discussion will flow.  Some advance discussion on our part and
>>>> vigilance will be important -- perhaps a bit of a caucus at the meeting
>>>> itself so decisions can be made on the fly. Any info on how other
>>>> groups plan to handle this would also be useful.
>>>>
>>>> Committing any group to take on an issue has to be agreed -- so I
>>>> doesn't seem possible for this process to happen in one meeting -- people
>>>> haven't actually seen the whole issue list Brian is going to present.
>>>>
>>>> Marita
>>>> On 6/15/2019 11:00 PM, Justine Chew wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Marita,
>>>>
>>>> Could you please provide a short list of issues which you think
>>>> At-Large cannot afford not to have an influence in?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Justine
>>>> -----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 07:37, Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's
>>>>> webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was
>>>>> expecting from us next:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Map issues to owners
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or approach
>>>>> to resolving the issue
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions
>>>>>
>>>>> So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification
>>>>> part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh,
>>>>> Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g.
>>>>> who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for
>>>>> resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to
>>>>> be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we
>>>>> want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and
>>>>> shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of
>>>>> the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might
>>>>> hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say
>>>>> that he was aware of the problem and that  participants would get lots of
>>>>> support.
>>>>>
>>>>> I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which
>>>>> issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our
>>>>> fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate
>>>>> our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a
>>>>> united point of view
>>>>>
>>>>> This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it is
>>>>> certain to be a long haul.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marita
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