[CPWG] [GTLD-WG] [registration-issues-wg] NARALO Insight: DNS Over HTTPS

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Sat Jun 22 14:38:47 UTC 2019


+1    CW


PS:  preferably not the geo-names session.

> El 21 de junio de 2019 a las 18:49 Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com> escribió:
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>     I am for it.
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>     -ed
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>     On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:30 PM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond < ocl at gih.com mailto:ocl at gih.com > wrote:
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>         > >         Hello all,
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> >         Vittorio will be in Marrakech. Could be an idea to invite him to whatever session we have on this topic, if we have one.
> >         Kindest regards,
> > 
> >         Olivier
> > 
> >         On 21/06/2019 12:13, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
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> >             > > >             The presentation that Vittorio Bertola did at EuroDIG was very good.
> > >             IMHO, he managed to present in an objective way the features of this technology and the pros and cons of its deployment.
> > >             The material presented should be publicly available shortly, unless I am mistaken. I recommend that we use that as basis for further initiatives.
> > >             Cheers,
> > >             Roberto
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >                 > > > >                 On 19.06.2019, at 21:28, Hadia El Miniawi via CPWG < cpwg at icann.org mailto:cpwg at icann.org > wrote:
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> > > >                 Hi Eduardo,
> > > >                 I support your suggestion.
> > > > 
> > > >                 Hadia
> > > >                 On Wednesday, June 19, 2019, 3:38:28 PM GMT+2, Eduardo Diaz < eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com mailto:eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com > wrote:
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> > > >                 My recommendation to the CPWG is to take this and create an advice to the Board by presenting our opinions about this technology, indicate how the end-user is affected, possible way of implementing this technology from the ICANN perspective and point out posible ICANN policies or ICANN structural changes needed to cope with its implementation.
> > > > 
> > > >                 The topic is very hot and we should take the opportunity to steer this discussion within ICANN since for I have seen it can split the DNS system in many ways and capture the end-user at the application level .
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> > > >                 -ed
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> > > >                 On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 4:18 AM Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi < Hadia at tra.gov.eg mailto:Hadia at tra.gov.eg > wrote:
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> > > > >                     Hi All,
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> > > > >                      
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> > > > >                     Going through the paper  published by CENTR, depending  on the means of implementation of DoH it could directly affect end users by limiting consumers choice and competition. Currently the users, if they wish could change the resolvers they are using. Again depending on the means of implementation, the browser companies, which are mainly 2-4 companies could have  control over the traffic of the users and choose which resolvers they use. The paper raises many different questions and issues, like the possible impact on the multistakeholder model. In my opinion it is worth reading.
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> > > > >                     Kind regards
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     Hadia
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> > > > >                      
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> > > > >                     From: CPWG [mailto:cpwg-bounces at icann.org mailto:cpwg-bounces at icann.org ] On Behalf Of Hadia El Miniawi via CPWG
> > > > >                     Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 2:59 PM
> > > > >                     To: Eduardo Diaz; Humberto Carrasco
> > > > >                     Cc: CPWG
> > > > >                     Subject: Re: [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] NARALO Insight: DNS Over HTTPS
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> > > > >                      
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     Thank you Eduardo and Glenn.
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> > > > >                      
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     CENTR published yesterday a paper on DoH, the link is herewith 
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> > > > > 
> > > > >                      CENTR Issue Paper on DNS over HTTPs https://centr.org/library/library/policy-document/centr-issue-paper-on-dns-over-https.html
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> > > > > 
> > > > >                     CENTR Issue Paper on DNS over HTTPs
> > > > >                     CENTR is the association of European coutry code top-level domain name registries. CENTR’s main purpose is to pr...
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> > > > >                     Kind regards
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     Hadia
> > > > > 
> > > > >                      
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     On Monday, June 17, 2019, 3:37:05 PM GMT+2, Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob at gmail.com mailto:hcarrascob at gmail.com > wrote:
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> > > > >                      
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> > > > >                     Thanks a lot Eduardo!!!
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     Enviado desde mi iPhone
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     El 14-06-2019, a la(s) 13:25, Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com mailto:eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com > escribió:
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> > > > > >                         All:
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> > > > > >                          
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> > > > > >                         Our region believes that this will become a hot topic within ICANN in the near future. 
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> > > > > >                          
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> > > > > >                         We invited Dan York from ISOC to explain this technology in layman's terms and to answer the following questions: [1] Will this affect the end-user? [2] Will this impact ICANN's remit?. Link to the video: https://youtu.be/c5CXaphNxU0 (Note: there is an approximate 1 minute gap around 9 minutes into the video. The rest of the video is OK after that).
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> > > > > >                         NARALO Insights are a dedicated video series on Internet Governance concerns with a special onus on relevant and topical discussion at ICANN. Our goal is to have community experts exchange ideas and regional perspectives on current hot topics to augment policy discussions within ALAC.
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