[CPWG] Verisign

Bill Jouris b_jouris at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 7 19:09:53 UTC 2020


 Jonathan, If I correctly understand what you are suggesting, I agree completely.  
The IDN effort is identifying extensive lists of symbols which normal users can not be expected to distinguish from one another.  ICANN could, if we wished, revise our contracts with the registries to simply block new domain names which differ from existing ones only by one or more of those.  So far, there is no sign of us actually doing so.  But it would be a better way to address the problem. 
Bill Jouris

    On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 10:03:35 AM PST, Jonathan Zuck <jzuck at innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:  
 
 This may have changed but the CCT report found far fewer defensive registrations in the new gTLDs than expected because the volume would just be too high. Instead, other means of monitoring, etc., were employed. Rather than accept defensive registrations as a solution, should we perhaps suggest blocking as an alternative? Regulating an entire market to facilitate an unfortunate activity seems wrong.

Jonathan Zuck
Executive Director
Innovators Network Foundation
www.Innovatorsnetwork.org
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Subject: Re: [CPWG] Verisign Hi Roberto, 
I don't work for Citi Bank, and am not aware of knowing anyone who does.  So I have no idea. 
I would note that, at this moment, we are probably 6 months from ICANN publishing the IDN effort's tables of all the variations on the Latin alphabet.  Having that readily available will make coming up with indistinguishable domain names much easier for bad actors.  And thus the need for defensive registrations. 
In short, the problem wrt the need for defensive registrations is still at the readily foreseeable stage, rather than the already exploding in our face stage.  
Bill

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On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 2:16 AM, Roberto Gaetano<roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com> wrote:Hi Bill.Just a couple of questions wrt:



The only obvious defense, for registrants who want their customers to arrive reliably at their website, will be defensive registrations.  Lots of defensive registrations.  (I did a quick calculation for Citi Bank.  4 letter domain name.  Close to 300 readily confusable variations.  Longer names would have more, of course.)


How many actual defensive registrations has Citi Bank?
Thanks,R.

  
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